Tuesday, March 25, 2014
Creationist Ken Ham Calls Bill Maher A "God-hater" for Simply Telling the Truth About the Noah Story
Not only does Ham ignore why Maher made the "God-hating" statements, but as usual, responds to them [as he did in his debate with Bill Nye] with a barrage of Bible verses
by Larry Simons
March 25, 2014
It is official. Creationist Ken Ham simply does not possess true debating skills without relying 100% on the usage of Bible verses alone. Remove the Bible verses from Ken Ham's debates and attempted refutations, and all you would hear is conjunctions [but, nor, for, and, etc..].
Ham published an article on his website Sunday titled, "Bill Maher Is Going to Pass On" [what an astoundingly profound deduction, that a human being will die one day, wow], in which he condemns comments made by Maher during his "new rules" segment of his HBO program Real Time with Bill Maher, in which Maher correctly referred to God as a "psychotic mass murderer".
Maher was simply reminding his studio and home audiences just how ridiculous the whole Noah/Noah's Ark story really is. Maher said:
"New rule: No one can blame me when I say, 'This is a stupid country when 60% of the adults in it think the Noah's Ark story is literally true'. Which is why I'm already sick of seeing the ads for this floating piece of giraffe crap [the movie poster for the film "Noah" appears in background]. Although, the movie has been condemned by both Christians and Muslims so it must be doing something right.
I don't know about the elephants on Noah's Ark, but the elephant in the room in 2014 is that we are now a full 4 centuries removed from the scientific revolution. Four centuries after Copernicus. After the time that humans realized that through science, we can actually get a real answer to almost every question about our world...
(And) when he (Noah) was 600, he and his three 100 year-old sons built a boat onto which in one day, they loaded over 3 million animals, all of which were apparently indigenous to within 5 miles of the boat. But get this, what the Christians who are now protesting this movie are upset about, is that it doesn't take the biblical story literally enough. They're mad because this made up story doesn't stay true to their made up story".
These words bother Ham and his ilk for one reason and one reason only: It is an independent thought coming from a person that does not bow to the status quo when it comes to religion. Maher speaks his mind about religion, one of the very few celebrities that actually do. Christians routinely get angry at those whose behavior does not fall in line with biblical teaching [like gay people] or those who make comments that are not "christian-like" but aren't necessarily unleashing a verbal assault on the religion itself.
Maher does just that. He addresses the actual belief behind the religion, and that is what gets Christians like Ken Ham outraged. Maher says out loud what most are afraid to say, that most of the stories in the Bible are 100% complete bullshit.
In Ham's article, he does not actually address the specifics of what Maher said on his show. Ham doesn't dispute that God murdered thousands/millions of babies in the flood. Know why? Because he simply can't refute it....it's true. Ham doesn't dispute the ridiculousness of 3 million animals all being in close proximity to the ark. Know why? Because it is ridiculous.
Instead, Ham just spits out Bible verse after Bible verse as if scripture alone is a refutation. Ham fails to realize that if one does not accept the Bible as fact, which Maher clearly does not, then a Bible verse will hardly be of any value or consolation. Bible verses are the only ammunition Ham can resort to, because common sense is not an option.
Ironically, the website and ministry Ken Ham created entitled Answers in Genesis is an odd title since the book of Genesis actually creates more questions than it answers. There are so many problems with the Noah story alone, these problems could be the subject of an entire book.
Maher continued to say on his show:
"But the thing that’s really disturbing about Noah isn’t the silly, it’s that it’s immoral. It’s about a psychotic mass murderer who gets away with it, and his name is God. Genesis says God was so angry with himself for screwing up when he made mankind so flawed, rrrrrr, that he sent the flood to kill everyone, everyone, men, women, children, babies. What kind of tyrant punishes everyone just to get back at the few he’s mad at? I mean, besides Chris Christie.
Hey God, you know you’re kind of a dick when you’re in a movie with Russell Crowe and you’re the one with anger issues. You know, conservatives are always going on about how Americans are losing their values and their morality, well maybe it’s because you worship a guy who drowns babies. And then God's genius plan, after he kills everyone, is to re-populate the world with a new crop of the same assholes that pissed him off the first time. With predictable results, he kills millions more.
Why are we getting our morals out of this book? Why do people follow any of it?"
"So why does God allow Bill Maher to continue his increasing God-hating comments? He really is tempting God. It’s as if he’s saying, “Come on God, I’m saying more and more outrageous things about You—come on—come and get me!”
Ham is delusional. Maher is doing no such thing. Maher is at the very least an agnostic. I would even bet that Maher is an all out atheist. There is no doubt that Maher is an atheist when it comes to Christianity in particular. That's clear. So, why would an atheist be mocking or tempting a god he believes is not there?
What kind of god would care about Maher speaking these words, but yet turn a blind eye to some of the most catastrophic events of the past 80 years [the Holocaust, Pearl Harbor, 9/11]? For a god to do absolutely nothing to either prevent or bring justice to the ones responsible for these horrific events in our history, and yet give attention to or intervene on something as petty as one man criticizing the Bible, that god would have to be exactly what Maher says he is, psychotic.
"Bill Maher is blaming God for death because he does not want to accept that he is a sinner in need of salvation."
Yep, that's exactly what Maher is doing.
"He [Maher] wants to be his own god—he shakes his fist at the God who created man and also provides the gift of salvation for those who will receive it."
Wants to be his own god? Manson, Koresh and Jim Jones wanted to be gods. Maher condemns religion as a constant assault on intellect, science and human reason. This is "wanting to be a god"?
"Yes, God is longsuffering toward Bill Maher. But it is appointed unto Mr. Maher that he will die—and then God has the last say. One day Bill Maher will give an account to God for all these statements he has made: “But I say to you that for every idle word men may speak, they will give account of it in the day of judgment (Matthew 12:36)."
One of the biggest issues I have with Christians or any follower of their particular religion is the fact that they describe what will happen to others who do not accept what they believe as if it is irrefutable fact. Ham says, "One day Bill Maher will give an account to God for all these statements he has made". Really? That's fact? You know this, Ken Ham? Or do you just believe it?
Christians pass off things that they simply believe will happen as things they know will happen. They do not even know God exists let alone if Jesus existed, or if any of the teachings were actually spoken from Jesus himself. Yet, this does not prevent them from equating biblical teachings to things they do know for certain [their skin color will be the same the next day and every other day, they will be the same sex tomorrow, the sun will rise in the morning and set in the evening, etc].
To Christians, there is no distinction between things they witness on a daily basis and teachings/concepts written in the Bible. If Jesus says he will return in the Bible, then a Christian will claim they know that to be true. They will make no distinction between Jesus' promises and knowing their feet will get wet once they step into a swimming pool.
Maher doesn't live in this delusional dimension, where things are miraculously known to be 100% fact without ever having witnessed it before. The principle of faith is not unreasonable and it is a concept that is found in the Bible repeatedly. But Christians do not stop at just having faith, or telling others that it is faith that motivates them. They tell others that biblical teaching is 100% bona fide fact. This is Ken Ham's world: knowing something to be fact without there being a precedent for it.
People like Bill Maher and myself, we choose to live in reality, not fantasy.