Friday, November 9, 2012

Jesse Ventura Puts Whackjob David Icke In His Place on 'Conspiracy Theory'



Icke deflects, dodges and ignores every attempt by Ventura to get to the truth of the Reptilian/human hybrid issue

by Larry Simons
November 9, 2012

Season 3 of Conspiracy Theory with Jesse Ventura began on Wednesday after a year delay [it should have began in late 2011] due to Ventura filing a lawsuit against the TSA and his refusing to fly after an incident with them.

Episode 1 covered the belief or theory that some world leaders are really shape-shifting reptilian lizards who are planning a takeover of the world. This topic is great for an episode of The X Files but attempting to pass it off as reality is lunacy to say the least. Ventura feels the same way, which is why at the end of the episode a feud broke out between Ventura and conspiracy writer David Icke.

Ventura simply wanted evidence, in which Icke replied, "They operate outside of the visible light.." Icke then explained that "not everything that exists, exists within visible light". He likened his belief in reptilians being unable to be seen to radio waves that travel through the air yet cannot be seen. He omitted, of course, that science has proven the existence of radio waves, whereas nothing has proved Icke's nutball lizard people theory.

Instead of simply just answer Ventura's questions, Icke chose to invite Ventura to watch his lectures and read his books. Later in the interview, Ventura accused Icke of being in his racket for money. The show reported that Icke brings in nearly 2 million dollars a year from his books, DVD's, his website and his speaking engagements. So, it's obvious that someone who rakes in that much cash, yet fails to provide answers when confronted is a colossal fraud.

Icke also believes in a New World Order and the Bilderberg Group, two things in which an abundance of evidence does exist. The problem with Icke's involvement in this lizard people bullshit is the very fact that he holds other views in which tangible evidence does exist, and whether Icke realizes it or not [or cares], many will connect David Icke with those among us who hold views that are valid because Icke also embraces those views. In other words, guilt by association. If someone like Alex Jones or myself starts talking about the Bilderberg Group, people might then think we believe in lizard people as well. As Alex Jones tells Ventura in the clip below, "it discredits the things we can prove because it can't be proven."

Another major issue with Icke's nutty belief in reptilian people is the fact that his belief in reptilians clothed in a human outer shell requires one to accept that mankind is powerless and can do nothing about beings from another planet who are running planet Earth. In other words, we can do nothing about it so we might as well accept it. Icke might disagree with that and suggest to people that we can do something about it: Be informed, and to be informed, you have to pay David Icke for his books, DVD's, website membership and his speaking engagements.

It would make more sense to me that David Icke himself is a reptilian from another planet, sent to Earth to spread this nutty bullshit to divert mankind away from how insane it is in order to deceive us into believing they don't exist.

watch the clip


12 comments:

the_last_name_left said...

Well, here's one of those rare moments where we agree.

Icke.

I want to know what the Final Solution to the Lizard Question is.

No-one seems to know.

He peddles a lot of trash you like but he gives it that real crazy glow. Lizards? Moonbases?

At least you don't dig all that shit, Lars.

You dig enough though.

Lots of what Icke says surely appeals to you L? He has stuff about The Fed, central banking, concentration camps, HAARP, The Protocols, Holocaust denial, BigFoot, whatever. All the stuff you dig?

Real Truth Online said...

"Lots of what Icke says surely appeals to you L? He has stuff about The Fed, central banking, concentration camps, HAARP, The Protocols, Holocaust denial, BigFoot, whatever. All the stuff you dig?"

I have no idea what he has to say about all the things you listed. I don't listen to or follow him.

But if he believes that the Fed needs to be abolished...yes I agree.

If he believes in concentration camps in America, yes....only they don't call them "concentration" camps. They call them "relocation centers". Google Rex 84.

HAARP, seems to be real.

Never heard of the protocols. See? You know more about Icke than I do. Should we worry about you?

Holocaust denial. We've been through this at length, haven't we. "Holocaust" means "massive slaughter". Holocaust denial is not denying there was a 'massive slaughter', it's just not agreeing with the NUMBER.

Bigfoot....of course I don't believe in that. You seen one story on my blog about it?

In light of your response I guess you completely ignored this segment of my story...

"Icke also believes in a New World Order and the Bilderberg Group, two things in which an abundance of evidence does exist. The problem with Icke's involvement in this lizard people bullshit is the very fact that he holds other views in which tangible evidence does exist, and whether Icke realizes it or not [or cares], many will connect David Icke with those among us who hold views that are valid because Icke also embraces those views. In other words, guilt by association. If someone like Alex Jones or myself starts talking about the Bilderberg Group, people might then think we believe in lizard people as well. As Alex Jones tells Ventura in the clip below, "it discredits the things we can prove because it can't be proven."

I guess you would have caught that if you actually READ my articles.

Theophrastus Bombastus said...

Ike's reptilians could also be a metaphor for a very real problem.

He brings up very interesting points aside from the reptilian thing. But, if as above so below extends through out the fabric if reality....then it is possible man is a two fold being. Spiritual and physical.

In the day time (ABOVE) there is one source of light, the sun.

In the evening darkness, (BELOW) we see clearly the many sources of light.

Day and night are as above so below from one another. And all the variation between.

Like the many phases of the moon.

Everything is polarized.

The same principle that manifests as day an night, manifests as roots and leaves of trees.

For the two operations are like one another.

In the above, leaves draw an unseen energy from the sun.

In the below they draw a tangible moisture and nutrients.

The same principle applies to the human condition.

Our most central pole runs from head to rear end and between the legs.

Two large hemispheres above.

Two small hemispheres below.

Pineal gland above (associated with dimethyltriptomine, and considered seat of the soul)

And penial gland below, associated with the creation of life.

This principle is the same principle that manifests between hand and foot.

With out ever seeing a foot, one could recognize this principle and simply studying the hand, one can learn or contemplate what a foot might be like, based on the hand.

This is where ikes reptilians he believes he has found.

He is applying as above so below...

With in reason one can study the unseen or contemplate the unseen with this principle and the principle of correspondence.

The human physical nature is never satisfied. Our hungers are like serpents.

The nature of man is as a fierce gray wolf found in mountains and valleys of the world, ravaged with hunger.

The reptile is the carnal nature of man.

Man is a two fold being, physical and spiritual..

What one may say is tacky, another will call humble and pious. Humility....... Something the widespread crass scientific materialists community can not measure. Thus a spiritual principle.

Theophrastus Bombastus said...

For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principles and powers in high places.

The weapons of our warfare are not carnal, but mighty through God to the pulling down of strong holds.

Sexual voodoo fetishes.........planted through cartoons.

"That which is good desires to be free, and that which is evil loves bondage and slavery.

As above so Below.......its how moses differed from pharaoh. X2...........its earth/fire/water/air.

Theophrastus Bombastus said...

So what is called "sacred geometry".or fractal geometry.... this is merely the visible representation of this principle manifest conveniently on paper.

For instance a female is a pentagram......she has a head 2 arms 2 legs.

Male is a hexagram.....you should be able to calculate why.

This may shed light on some esoteric aspect of numbers.

Theophrastus Bombastus said...

Something to consider....... Jesse is sort of using a military tactic towards Ike....

There is a reason for instance that they tear gas and smoke during raids.. the purpose is to surprise the opponent. It throws them off... to the point of being confused about the situation.

Like when the dea or whoever comes busting through a door of a marijuana dispensary....

Thats how I would take venturas attitude from the beginning.

Ike may or may not have ever been in the military, really its irrelevant, but if hes always been a civilian, how else would you respond?.

Thats how drill sargents try and chike people up.

Just bust into the situation, blowing stuff everywhere.

Also the frustration of always repeating ones self may of led to Ike just turning ventura to his books and lectures. All of which can be found online. Especially when confronted in this manner, I wouldnt wanna sit there and repeating my self to someone obviously with differing motives.

I dont agree with all of Ike. My opinion dosent rely on his information. But I could sympathize with how he must felt.

Again, I beleive Ike brings an element of truth mix with falsity.

A half truth.

There is some explaining to bring one foundational understanding, such as I wrote above.

This should be expected, as in order to arrive at where many people are today, they had to be first trained the foundations through school.

Ikes lectures are in you tube, his books can be purchased second hand for next to nothing.... his info has been out long enough......ike wasnt asking much of ventura when he referred him to his lectures and books..

Again I dont agree all with ike.

Just adding another perspective.

Theophrastus Bombastus said...

Just like the principle of day and night manifests as roots and leaves.......

There are many ways to tell the same story... in order convey a particular principle.

I see Ikes story as, part of the truth.

When you are carying around a particular principle, in an oral tradition a myth or story can be made up incorporating the principle. While the individual elementsof the story may or may not have some relevance.... as the principle being conveyed is the meat of it.

Theophrastus Bombastus said...

Or quintessence

Theophrastus Bombastus said...

One could look at the military techniques and say, ok these are good techniques...... but only in a self serving way...

They meant to blow the opponent out before he even has a chance to really react.

Theophrastus Bombastus said...

Bully techniques.

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Theophrastus Bombastus said...

Point is, many people would have difficulty responding to this sort of approach.