"War On" Christmas is back in full swing in 2012. It begins with O' Reilly claiming that Christianity is not a religion, but a philosophy
by Larry Simons
November 29, 2012
Last night on The O' Reilly Factor, Billo starts off a segment by claiming there is a "Christmas controversy". What Billo fails to mention is that this "controversy" is only happening in one place....inside his own head. O' Reilly brings on the President of the American Atheists, David Silverman, to discuss why atheists appear to be behind a crusade to take down public Christmas displays.
Billo begins by asking why Silverman and his group are "messing around" with Christmas. Silverman explains [in the first of many attempts to get it through Billo's head] that they are simply trying to prevent the government from preferring one religion over another.
Billo, in his ever-present insanity, asks Silverman, "What religion is involved with Christmas?" Silverman explains, "Christianity" [At this point, a collective 'duh-duhhhh' can be heard across the country].
BIllo then speaks one of the biggest lies of his 16-year Fox News career, "That's not a religion, that's a philosophy." After I was done laughing at Billo's immense stupidity, I went to the computer and performed a task that was as easy as finding out the Declaration of Independence was signed in 1776 or that the Titanic sank in 1912: I found that Christianity is indeed a religion.
Any website you look up or dictionary you browse will describe Christianity as a religion. The site religionfacts.com says this, "Christianity was founded in the early 1st century AD, with the teaching, miracles, crucifixion and resurrection of Jesus of Nazareth. Today it is the largest religion in the world, with around 2 billion followers." This is just one of a never-ending list of sources that will state this very same fact.
Not only do all modern definitions of religion indicate that Christianity is constituted as one, but all definitions from early church fathers do as well. In an article from the American Atheists website, Public Relations director Teresa MacBain explains:
"The Augsburg Confession (1530) states, “that … one pure and true religion may be embraced and maintained by us.” Article 30 of the Belgic Confession (1561) insists that the church leaders are in
place so “that by these means true religion may be preserved.” The Westminster Confession (1646) instructs, “in all controversies of religion, the Church is finally to appeal unto [the Scriptures].” Finally, consider the London Baptist Confession (1689) stating their goal, “to manifest our consent … in all the fundamental articles of the Christian Religion.” Mr. O’Reilly’s argument that Christianity is not a religion proves that he has not done his homework."
Christianity has enjoyed tax free status for years because it is a religion. If O' Reilly feels so strongly about Christianity not being a religion [but a "philosophy"], would he easily agree that Christian churches should lose tax exempt status?
O' Reilly displays more insanity shortly after declaring that Christianity is not a religion when he says this:
"If the government were saying that the Methodist religion deserves a special place in the public square, I would be on your side."
Here Billo calls a denomination of Christianity [Methodist] a RELIGION, but the entire religion itself he calls a philosophy and not a religion! The insanity doesn't stop there.
Billo then lists what he believes to be actual religions. Billo states, "Roman Catholicism is a religion. Judaism is a religion..." Silverman immediately refutes Billo by stating these are actually sects of Christianity. In reality, O' Reilly and Silverman are both right in claiming Judaism is both a religion and a sect of Christianity. While Jews acknowledge the Old Testament as the true teaching of God, they do not acknowledge the New Testament. Likewise, while they do not follow the religion of Christianity, they follow the same god in which Christians claim Jesus is the human manifestation. Roman Catholicism however, is clearly not a religion, but a denomination/sect of the Christian Church. Why is it that atheists and agnostics know more about this shit than Christians do?
The point of this argument is, however, that Silverman is attempting to explain to O' Reilly that his organization's goal is to stop the government from abandoning religious neutrality and demonstrate equality like the Constitution states it should. Silverman then explains that the Constitution says precisely this.
The First Amendment states, "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."
O' Reilly still clings to his ridiculous notion that Christianity is NOT a religion, but a philosophy. Silverman brilliantly responds, "So you wouldn't have a problem then with the government of the United States establishing atheism, because that's also a philosophy?" Billo then focuses on his usage of the word "establishing" and completely diverts away from Silverman's point and ignores his question.
Then, as if more insanity is needed or required, Billo gets schooled on the meaning of the term "winter solstice", a term that Billo brings into the debate. Billo refers to "winter solstice" as a "holiday". Silverman refutes this too and correctly defines it as "a celestial event", in which Billo [in unambiguous defeat] utters the words that every good Christian person would utter. Billo says, "Jesus Christ" completely outside of the context of the conversation, meaning he was taking the Lord's name in vain. Model Christian behavior there, Billo!
Billo then states that a "Christmas tree" is a secular symbol, but fails to explain why it is not a contradiction for Christians to incorporate a secular symbol in their christian celebration of Christ's birth. Silverman's point of the government picking sides is brilliantly made again when he [Silverman] explains that the usage of term "Christ" in "Christmas tree" is showcasing the government's stamp of approval, which, according to the Constitution, they ought not be doing.
Billo, in extreme panic, to say anything to change the subject because he is getting his ass handed to him on a platter by Silverman, inadvertently shouts out, "Christmas is a federal holiday". Not a very good thing to say to someone who is trying to get the government to be fair concerning religion! Where are the federal holidays for all other religions?
Then, just when I thought the hilarity was over, Billo says the most hilarious thing I have ever heard him spew from his giant lying trap. Billo calls Silverman and his organization a "merry band of fascists".
At this point my ribs are hurting from laughter because not only is Silverman trying to make the point that the government should treat all religions equal and not take sides, but Silverman is the only one in the debate who is denouncing having other people's views [religions] forced upon him by the likes of Billo and the federal government. If anyone in the debate was on the brink of fascistic behavior, it was O' Reilly!
Silverman then had to defend himself against O' Reilly's false accusation that his organization wants Christmas trees removed from the public. This is false, and O' Reilly knows it. Silverman and the American Atheists want there to be neutrality. In other words, if the government endorses Christian symbols, they must endorse them from all religions; if they don't endorse one religion, they must not endorse any. A 2nd grader could understand Silverman's point. Then again, look who Silverman is talking to.
This was a sight to see. This might very well be the biggest ass beating in O' Reilly's sell-out "journalistic" career.
watch Silverman tear O' Reilly a new ass