Osteen says he did not choose to be straight, that's just who he is. Stands to reason that homosexuals did not choose their sexuality either. So why does God condemn a behavior that one does not choose?
by Larry Simons
September 22, 2012
I realize that televangelist Joel Osteen is highly respected by his church members, as well as the millions that no doubt tune in to watch his goody goody, watered-down prosperity-based theological sermons every week. But, this guy is a fraud; and a big one at that.
Not only does Osteen rarely talk about people being sinners, but his sermons rarely contain scripture. He even admits that his sermons try to "help people with their everyday lives" and he tries to focus on the goodness of God rather than sin. Basically, Osteen is a motivational speaker that inserts the word "god" into the text every 2 minutes. His sermons also falsely lead people to believe that God will reward them with wealth and power if only they just have a positive attitude.
Thursday, Osteen appeared on the CNN program Starting Point with Soledad O'Brien. When O'Brien asked Osteen how he could be uplifting LGBT [lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender] people when he is telling them they are sinners, Osteen said:
"It seems like in Christianity, sometimes we categorize sin. I mean pride is a sin, being critical is a sin, being negative is a sin."
After O'Brien brilliantly stated that pride, being critical and being negative are all things you can change [the implication is that one cannot change being a homosexual], Osteen replied, "I don't think it's God's best".
Homosexuality is "not God's best"? Osteen likens God to a sculptor who makes hundreds of great sculptures and every once in a while makes a bad one. O'Brien asked Osteen if he believed homosexuality is a sin. Osteen agreed and said, "Exactly". She then pointed out that when Osteen is talking to his 45,000+ congregation every week and some are gay, that he's telling them, "you're a sinner".
Osteen replied, "That's what I believe, that the scripture condemns it. It says it's a sin, but it also says, you know, lying is and that being prideful is."
After O'Brien points out to Osteen that LGBT people did not choose to be "sinners", but liars did, Osteen said, "I know I have not chosen to be straight, I feel like that's who I am. I don't understand all those issues so, you know, I try to stick on the issues I do understand. I know this: I'm for everybody, I'm not for pushing people down. ... I don't know were the fine line is, but I do try to stay in my lane."
Interesting. Osteen admits to O'Brien and the CNN panel that he did not choose to be straight. So, explain this to me Mr. Osteen: If you did not choose to be straight and God does not condemn your behavior, then how could God possibly be a just God if he condemns homosexuality when they did not choose to be gay?
Is Osteen saying that he did not choose to be straight but homosexuals did choose their lifestyle? If this is true [that Osteen is saying this] then not only is Osteen being a colossal hypocrite, but Osteen is admitting that God is not just unjust, but also imperfect. Only an imperfect God would create some humans with the ability to possess free will in order to choose their lifestyle and create others without that ability to choose. Thanks Joel. You have reaffirmed to the thinking population on this planet that God is neither just or perfect.
The obvious question is this: If Osteen is claiming that he did not choose to be straight [and he did claim it], would it not stand to reason that homosexuals also did not choose to be gay? And since [if what Osteen is saying is true] straight people do not choose to be straight, then [God being just and perfect] homosexuals also do not choose to be gay. It's "who they are" as Osteen claimed about himself.
Here is the ultimate question: Since homosexuals do not choose to be gay, how can God condemn it?
The Bible clearly says homosexuality is wrong, but Osteen plays it off like it's no biggie.
Leviticus 18:22 states "Do not lie with a man as one lies with a woman; that is detestable".
Leviticus 20:13 states "If a man lies with a man as one lies with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable".
1 Corinthians 6:9-10 states "Or do you not know that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals, nor thieves, nor the covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers, shall inherit the kingdom of God".
Romans 1:26-28 states "Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural ones. In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed indecent acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their perversion. Furthermore, since they did not think it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God, he gave them over to a depraved mind, to do what ought not to be done".
Doesn't sound to me like God just passes it off as 'not his best'. It says homosexuals will not inherit the kingdom of God. But Osteen wants us to think God is going to make gay people stand in the corner for an hour before entering heaven.
My take on this is simple: Osteen is full of shit because the Bible is full of shit. Both are frauds. Straight people are straight and gay people are gay. If God was all powerful and all perfect to begin with, he would have created human beings in such a manner where the desire to be sexually attracted to the same sex would be non-existent. I am sick and tired of hearing the "free will" bullshit.
If God is the ultimate computer tech and human beings are the computer circuit boards, God would have wired us without the possibility of being sexually attracted to the same sex if he abhors it so much. But, he did not do this, did he? Know why? Because being gay is not a sin. If God is not all powerful and not just [as I believe I have just proven, with Osteen's help], then it stands to reason there is probably no such thing as sin as well.
There are many examples in the Bible of God not giving humans free will [God "hardening Pharaoh's heart" is just one. I could list more and more]. Osteen wants his zombie followers to believe that both straight and homosexual people do not choose their own sexual behaviors [but that being straight or gay is "who we are"] but ONLY homosexuals are condemned to hell for it.
That belief, just like Osteen, is 100% complete bullshit.
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