Tuesday, December 13, 2011

Andy Ostroy Lies About What Ron Paul Said About His Economic Roots


Ostroy claims Ron Paul said he “grew up through the Depression”. A closer look reveals the Congressman did not actually say this

by Larry Simons
December 12, 2011

In Andy Ostroy’s latest article, “The GOP Candidates Do Monty Python's “Four Yorkshiremen” [Dec. 11], Ostroy writes about the moment during Saturday’s ABC Iowa debate when Diane Sawyer asks the candidates about a time in their lives when they had a personal financial strain.

Ostroy writes:

“But the most fun came at the end of the debate when the candidates were asked what financial sacrifices they had made in their lives. And as my friend Paul keenly observed, this is when the debate turned into Monty Python's hilarious "Four Yorkshiremen" sketch where a bunch of snooty aristocrats wax nostalgic about their difficult upbringings, trying to out-poor each other with one absurd claim after another.

Perry said he his house didn't have running water until he was six, and that his mother sewed his clothes until he went off to college. Gingrich said he was raised in an apartment above a gas station. Ron Paul told of growing up through the Depression. Michele Bachmann said she had to work at 13 because her single mom fell below the poverty line. Romney sheepishly admitted he hadn't been poor, but that his father had been.”

I found it odd that Ostroy includes a clip of the Monty Python sketch in his article, but omits a clip of this segment of the debate in which the candidates actually give their answers.

Here is the clip. Ron Paul’s answer is at 8:07 into it. Notice Ron Paul never states he “grew up through the Depression


In fact, Congressman Paul admits that he was rather fortunate despite growing up in a poor family and a poor era. Ostroy also omits that when Ron Paul started his own private practice in 1968, he often lowered fees for patients and worked for free. Even today as a Congressman he refuses to sign up for the Congressional pensions that he is entitled to because he says it’s immoral. Yeah, a real elitist prick Ron Paul is!

I left this post on his blog. It will never see the light of day, so I include it here:

“Ron Paul never said he “grew up through the depression”. His exact words were, “I feel very fortunate because, although I was raised in a system, in a family that was rather poor, but we didn’t even know it. It was during the depression/WW II, we didn't have very much and I worked my way through college and that was a natural instinct because that's what you were supposed to do...”

“Raised in a system that was rather poor” is not the same as “growing up through the depression”. But why should facts matter to you?”

“Growing up through the Depression” would imply that Ron Paul was born in the time frame of around 1915-1920 and that he was literally “growing up” during the Depression years of 1929-1933. In fact, the Depression only lasted until roughly 1933, two years before Ron Paul was born. WWII began in 1939 and ended in 1945, so it becomes obvious that Ron Paul was simply lumping the two events [Great Depression/WWII or 1929-1945] together.

He is right actually. The Depression/WW II era lasted from 1929-1945. Ron Paul was born in 1935. He was 10 years old in 1945. So, Ron Paul is correct when he stated that he was raised in a poor system. Nothing Ron Paul said was exaggerated or inflated to imply that his humble beginnings were better than they actually were.

So, what’s Ostroy’s problem? Simple: Ostroy loves lumping Ron Paul in with the rest of these elitist goons so he can marginalize his campaign, whilst at the same time continually supporting elitist and Wall Street-funded Obama.

Doesn’t get more hypocritical than that, folks.

14 comments:

Anonymous said...

hes a liar. and has now taken the led for fraudie of the year.

rob said...

ostroy has embarrassed himself again with his lies. i bet this jackass uses comment moderation on his own site. all about the truth andy... yeah right.

me said...

DR ron paul makes these jackasses look like thier running in circle, of corse they are but nune the less.

Anonymous said...

larry, did you see ron paul destroy everyone in the last debates?

Anonymous said...

its time for the fraudie.

rob said...

i only have one thing to say to andy.......ballzzz..nnn.

Rob the illiterate said...

RP: "[I was raised] ...during the depression...."

Larry: Ron Paul never states he “grew up through the Depression”

lol

Larry: "The Depression/WW II era lasted from 1929-1945. Ron Paul was born in 1935."

lol

rob said...

oh shit the last cock in mouth queenie fraud name left is back when he said he never ever would come back. he just proved himself a liar and proved us right that hes a fraud. what a FN joke.

Larry said...

Yeah, I find it quite funny that TLNL said he wouldnt be back, and he comes back under a different moniker, which makes him a big liar.

Ron Paul's EXACT WORDS were this:

"I feel very fortunate because, although I was raised in a system, in a family that was rather poor, but we didn’t even know it. It was during the depression/WW II.."

The depression lasted from 1929 until roughly 1933 and then things rapidly improved after that. Ron Paul's EXACT WORDS were "It was during the depression/WWII.." He INCLUDED WWII in that time frame because WWII began in 1939, so he basically just lumped the two together. So, being that the great depression ended around 1933 but still saw its effects until about 1935, it would be hard for Ron Paul to have "grown up through the depression" if he was born in 1935.

Ron Paul was correct to say he grew up in that "era" of the great depression/WWII because WWII lasted until 1945. He didnt mislead anyone or misstate anything. Ostroy simply just lied in ONLY mentioning the Great depression in his article while omitting the WWII reference. Lying by omission is still lying. My article stands unscathed by scrutiny.

So, who's the illiterate one now?

Anonymous said...

way to to go larry. once again you have destroyed last queenie fraud name left.

Anonymous said...

Larry: 'Ron Paul was correct to say he grew up in that "era" of the great depression'
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And yet the first line of the article says


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Ostroy claims Ron Paul said he “grew up through the Depression”. A closer look reveals the Congressman did not actually say this
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Larry's article says "Ron Paul never states he 'grew up through the Depression'" and yet in the comments here Larry now says:

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'Ron Paul was correct to say he grew up in that "era" of the great depression'
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In the article Larry starts by claiming 'Paul never said "he grew up through the Depression"'.

But in the comments larry now says "Paul grew up in the depression era".

Way to go! repudiate your own article! Brilliant.

Larry said...

Why go under anonymous when we all know you're TLNL????

HUH???

The only way I can respond to this post is.....uh.....the way I ALREADY DID respond to it earlier when I said this:

"Ron Paul's EXACT WORDS were this:

"I feel very fortunate because, although I was raised in a system, in a family that was rather poor, but we didn’t even know it. It was during the depression/WW II.."

The depression lasted from 1929 until roughly 1933 and then things rapidly improved after that. Ron Paul's EXACT WORDS were "It was during the depression/WWII.." He INCLUDED WWII in that time frame because WWII began in 1939, so he basically just lumped the two together. So, being that the great depression ended around 1933 but still saw its effects until about 1935, it would be hard for Ron Paul to have "grown up through the depression" if he was born in 1935.

Ron Paul was correct to say he grew up in that "era" of the great depression/WWII because WWII lasted until 1945. He didnt mislead anyone or misstate anything. Ostroy simply just lied in ONLY mentioning the Great depression in his article while omitting the WWII reference. Lying by omission is still lying. My article stands unscathed by scrutiny.

So, who's the illiterate one now?"

Do you really, I mean REALLY have a reading comprehension problem???

rob said...

the last cock in mouth queenie fraud name left has lied again. wow thats a new one. lmmfao. exposed again.

Anonymous said...

remember last fraud left that reading is fundamental.