He not only believes Bin Laden was just killed days ago, but that his death means something to America!
by Larry Simons
May 5, 2011
I am just going to be blunt about Andy Ostroy’s latest article, “9 Years, 234 Days Later: What bin Laden's Death Means to America [May 3]”, because it is the most ridiculous, lie-infested, litany of utter crapola I have ever read. This article might just win top prize among his other bullshit articles of the past, and let me tell ya….that takes a lot, and I mean A LOT of doing!
The best way I can address Ostroy’s latest composition of shit is to just post it portion by portion and then insert my reaction [in purple text in parenthesis]. I will begin by addressing where the first catastrophic lie is located….his title, “….what bin Laden’s death means to America”.
[If anyone has at least two brain cells in their head, they would conclude that Bin Laden’s death means absolutely nothing to America. This includes all of our top leaders, including President Obama, because Osama’s death means that we should get the fuck out of Afghanistan. But, naturally, you will not see this happen. In fact, I will make the prediction right here, right now, that his death will only be used to prolong war. Top military officials, as well as leaders in Washington will no doubt be planting seeds soon that Bin Laden’s “death” will be avenged with new threats and possibly new 9/11-style terror attacks. This is why “more war will be needed”]
“Make no mistake: the death of al Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden, mastermind of the 9/11 terrorist attacks, is a monumental military and psychological victory for our great nation and for all Americans.”
[First of all, as I have stated numerous times, Bin Laden was never even indicted for 9-11, nor was charged with the crime. The FBI admitted they did not have sufficient proof he was the “mastermind” behind 9/11. I have posted Bin Laden’s FBI profile numerous times in the past few days showing this. But if Ostroy wants to lie and call Bin Laden the “mastermind” behind 9/11, he can if it makes him feel better. A “monumental military and psychological victory for our great nation and for all Americans”? Really Andy? It would only be a “monumental” victory if Bin Laden really did carry out 9/11. The FBI [as I have said] said there was not enough proof to charge Bin Laden with 9/11. So, how can it be monumental to kill someone in whom there was no proof that individual carried out an attack on our country? For “all” Americans? You can be the spokesman for all dumbed-down Americans who love fake patriotism, Ostroy, but do not speak for me.]
“It marks the end of the biggest criminal manhunt in history, presents us with an opportunity for unity, and to experience some sense of satisfaction as we continue to mourn the loss of 3000 victims and heal the still-open wounds.”
[The manhunt is over, huh? So, we can leave Afghanistan then Andy? What connection is there between “satisfaction” over Bin Laden’s death and us mourning 3,000 victims if we have no proof Bin Laden murdered 3,000 victims? Pure insanity.]
“news began to spread late Sunday evening that a Unites States mission led by Navy Seals killed bin Laden at his $1-million fortress/mansion in a suburb just 35 miles outside of Pakistan's capital…”
[Actually it is worth about $250,000, but don’t let the facts get in the way Andy. Also people living nearby/neighbors never heard one peep about Bin Laden living there. This guy doesn't even believe it.]
“…(quite contrary to the belief these past ten years that he'd been desperately living like a hunted animal in a remote cave).”
[Actually the belief has been that he’s been dead these past 10 years]
“Hundreds of people, largely college students and young people, immediately descended upon the White House, Times Square, Ground Zero and other locations throughout the country.”
“While they rallied and cheered in jubilant celebration of the death of this monster, others have decried such revelry and likened it to the shameful dancing and glee that took place on the streets in Middle Eastern countries following the attacks ten years ago.
It's hard to make comparisons between then and now, as the deaths that were celebrated back in September 2001 were of innocent people, while bin Laden was a mass murderer who deserved to die.”
[Yes, they were innocent, but keep in mind, our own FBI never indicted Bin Laden for 9/11 and 9/11 was not listed under his crimes on his FBI profile. A person should only be deemed “a mass murderer” if they have been tried and convicted through our legal system. Even a confession is not considered evidence, because as we all know, someone could “claim” they carried out a crime even if they didn’t simply because they want to take credit for something they wish they had done. Also, here’s a thought to ponder: Since 2002, the United States has slaughtered well over a million Afghan and Iraqi civilians in two illegal and unconstitutional wars, meaning they were innocent as well. So, that being true, can we not equate Americans who support these wars and rally them on with the Middle Eastern citizens who danced with glee over the deaths of the 3,000 killed on 9/11?]
“Additionally, it's unfair to judge anyone under these trying circumstances. Those who've lost loved ones to violence view life, and death, through a much different lens. It's easy to understand how victims of deadly crimes could desire vengeance and vindication. It's easy to understand their celebration over the death of those who kill. It's the biblical "eye for an eye." That other Americans who have indirectly been affected by the 9/11 attacks also joyously celebrate bin Laden's death is understandable as well.”
[Yes, but the United States is supposed to be civilized and try these people through the court of law. The wars are illegal and unconstitutional. That means we are not supposed to be there in the first place. That also means we are not supposed to shoot people dead unless they are engaged in a shoot-out with us. In other words: We kill out of self-defense, not just burst into compounds and shoot people dead. It has been reported that the “supposed” Bin Laden was captured alive and then executed, (and unarmed). So, why did we need to shoot him? He was never charged with carrying out 9/11. Oh, and Andy, the “eye for an eye” thing was outdated when Jesus came along. Did you miss too much Sunday school Andy?]
“To be sure, bin Laden and his actions forever changed the U.S landscape in so many ways. His impact can be felt in virtually every aspect of American life, from politics and finance to travel and homeland security.”
[Well, being a CIA operative with code name Tim Osman can have an effect on the American landscape. His “impact”? You mean, the impact that our government allowed him to have? Who do you think gave Bin Laden and his crew the guns they used to fight the Russians? They sure didn’t get the guns at their local Islamabad K-Mart, Andy. Those guns came courtesy of the good ol’ USA! At the risk of sounding Kerry-esque, Bin Laden was our friend before he was our enemy.]
“Since the 9/11 attacks, we've been forced to live in fear when we fly, board a train, stand in the subways. That the architect of this terror had half his face blown off is justice served to many.”
[Oh, you mean the guy that the FBI had insufficient evidence against for carrying out the 9/11 attacks?]
“Like Hitler during the 1930's and 40's, bin Laden was responsible for mass death and atrocities, and was our #1 enemy.”
[And just like Hitler, Bin Laden was supported by the United States government. Being on the CIA’s payroll is most definitely considered support.]
“It's ok to cheer and celebrate his death. We killed our enemy before he could kill us.”
[According to you Andy, he did kill us first…on 9/11 remember? How soon we forget!]
“The joy is more like a collective sigh of relief that maybe this reign of terror, if not over, will abate somewhat.”
[He’s been dead for 10 years Andy. What “reign of terror” are you talking about George W. Bush? Er…I mean, Andy?]
“And if our great nation, which has been royally kicked in the ass since the 9/11 attacks--made worse by the worst financial crisis in over 80 years--has a brief opportunity to feel victorious and proud, what's wrong with that?”
[And Obama has helped this nation get “kicked in the ass” more…with more war, more death, more added to our national debt, increased unemployment, more troops sent to Afghanistan and Iraq, and now a THIRD war in Libya. Not to mention Obama’s bailing out of banks and doing nothing to CEO’s who give themselves 4 million-dollar bonuses.]
“But it's also completely understandable to view such revelry as uncouth and un-American. Celebrating the death of anyone is not supposed to be something which causes elation and high-fives. We are supposed to be above that. Civility and the rule of law is what really makes America great.”
[Funny, you just said “It’s OK to cheer and celebrate his death”]
“But things are very complicated in the post 9/11 world. Grief comes in many different flavors, and everyone experiences it differently. So we must understand and accept the myriad reactions to bin Laden's death without judgement”
[Even if the reactions come from uninformed, idiotic people who care more about their favorite TV shows being canceled than learning facts about how evil and corrupt our own government is? Even if these people have no clue how much their own government lies to them? You’re one of those people Andy. Sorry Andy, I can’t give you, or them, a free pass on stupidity.]
“…and at least agree that America and the world is a better place without him.”
[Want to back that up with proof?]
I admit, I have not written much about Ostroy lately, but this garbage sure does make up for my lack of mention of him. It frightens me that someone like Ostroy, who comes across as someone who should possess more intelligence than he does, is capable of such profound blind allegiance to this country and stupidity, that he fails miserably at putting forth any effort to learn facts. Not to mention also, for writing such atrocious articles like this.
I have no clue how Ostroy can top this insane and misguided article. But, I am sure he can. I have faith in him..