Thursday, February 18, 2010
Mark Potok Says FEMA Camps, Evils of Secret Societies, the Threat of Martial Law and the New World Order Aren’t Real
Potok concludes the O’ Reilly segment by saying Constitutionalists are dangerous
by Larry Simons
February 18, 2010
On Wednesdays O’ Reilly Factor, Billo had on Mark Potok from the Southern Poverty Law Center [SPLC] to discuss his views on whether the Tea Party movement has been taken over by Patriot movement militia groups and white supremacists.
O’ Reilly did this segment in response to a N.Y. Times article that suggested the Tea Party movement is dangerous. Potok is a decent source to ask about this, since the SPLC tracks hate groups and has won court cases against white supremacists.
watch the clip
O’ Reilly tells Potok that the N.Y. Times article does not give an accurate description of the movement as a whole. One has to wonder if O’ Reilly is only defending the Tea Parties because he knows his fellow FOX News stooge [and fake libertarian] Glenn Beck is one of its major cheerleaders, and that recently GOP darling [and new FOX News employee] Sarah Palin has been giving keynote speeches at the Tea Parties.
Whatever O’ Reilly’s real motivation is for defending the Tea Party movement, I would have to agree with him at least in the sense that, across the board, the movement, in and of itself, is not a bad thing. Does it attract the occasional nutball who might take their guns and go on a rampage? Maybe so, but that does not invalidate the movement, or the second amendment of the Constitution.
O’ Reilly asks Potok if Potok thinks he is wrong for thinking the Tea Party movement is unrepresentative of any far-right group. Potok says:
“Well, I think you’re at least somewhat wrong. The way I would describe it is this: I don’t think that it’s fair to say that the Tea Party movement is, uh, a right-wing extremist movement and that’s all there is to it. I think that’s clearly not the case, but, what I would say, is we’ve got a lot of evidence to suggest…I mean, the movement is pretty well shot through with some of the elements, uh, that you find in the patriot groups, the militia groups…the anti-immigration groups and so on. So, the kind of thing we’re seeing is increasingly in the tea party movement, while I think their predominant worries are the size of the government, spending, the bailouts, the idea that undeserving elites like bank executives…are getting rewards out of this, you know, this is driving a lot of anger….still, we are seeing ideas like, you know, FEMA is running a set of secret concentration camps out there, martial law’s around the corner, the Trilateral Commission and the Council on Foreign Relations are sort of evil entities, involved in pushing us into, uh, a New World Order or some kind of global one-world government, and I think…some of the evidence is very well known”.
After O’ Reilly cuts in and says to Potok, “there is about 10%…of the tea party people who do fall under that paranoia blanket..” , Potok says this:
“(there’s) a lot of fear and frustration, and unfortunately, in a great many cases, these are things that are built around fears that aren’t real. We are spending a lot of money; there’s no question about it. But there are not secret concentration camps out there…”
Well, it was hard to look at Potok talking. Not only because he looks like the result of Seth Brundle throwing Jeff Lynne, William H. Macy, a Chia Pet and a hamster into his telepod and fusing them all together, but he was blatantly lying about the non-existence of detainment facilities and the threat of martial law.
Not only has there already been legislation introduced [H.R. 645] to “establish national emergency centers on military installations” but the Pentagon already has in place a Civilian Inmate Labor Program. The program is courtesy of Army Regulation 210-35, and it establishes labor programs and prison camps on Army installations.
If O’ Reilly really wanted to know something about detaining large numbers of American citizens, he could just walk over to fellow FOX News employee Oliver North’s office and simply ask him about it. North is the one who wrote Rex 84 [Readiness Exercise 84], which is a continuity of government plan that was designed for the detainment of American citizens incase of civil unrest or a national emergency [in other words: Martial Law]. North was both the NSC White House Aide and NSC liaison to FEMA.
Here’s Rex 84 being discussed during the Iran-Contra hearings in 1987. Congressman Jack Brooks brings up Rex 84 and North’s plan to suspend the Constitution in the event of a major disaster. He is stopped cold by the chairman who deems the questioning touches upon “a highly sensitive and classified area”
North patterned the plan [of Rex 84] on a 1970 FEMA report written by [then] FEMA chief Louis Giuffrida which proposed the detention of up to 21 million American negroes in the event of a black militant uprising in the United States.
From 1967 to 1971, the FBI kept a list of over 100,000 people to be rounded up as subversive. This was known as the ‘ADEX’ list. The reason given for such installations usually ranges from “emergency centers” that are used for the “protection” of American citizens during a national emergency, to holding centers to detain illegal aliens.
The threat of martial law is most certainly real. As recent as two years ago, during the 2008 financial bailout, Congressman Mark Sherman told members of the House:
“...the only way they can pass this bill is by creating and sustaining a panic atmosphere. That atmosphere is not justified. Many of us were told in private conversations that if we voted against this bill on Monday, that the sky would fall, the market would drop two or three thousand points the first day, another couple thousand the second day. And a few members were even told that there would be martial law in America if we voted no. That's what I call fear fear-mongering, unjustified, proven wrong. We've got a week, we've got two weeks to write a good bill. The only way to write, to pass a bad bill: keep the panic pressure on”.
Here’s the clip
Wikipedia says that after conspiracy theorists picked up on this comment, Sherman’s office issued this clarification:
“I also want to stress that I have no reason to think that any of the leaders in Congress who were involved in negotiating with the Bush Administration regarding the bailout bill ever mentioned the possibility of martial law -- again, that was just an example of extreme and deliberately hyperbolic comments being passed around by members not directly involved in the negotiations.”
However, on the Alex Jones Show in October 2008, Sherman said although he didn’t take the threats seriously, he said he was convinced the people who said them were serious.
“I think these were people who really believed what they were saying. I don’t think these were people who, uh, were, you know, got called by Goldman Sachs and said ‘well, go say this or go say that’.
Executive Directive 51, signed by President Bush on May 4, 2007 essentially is a Martial Law continuance plan. How people like Potok can deny the possibility of Martial Law when legislation has already been passed and signed by Presidents is simply astonishing.
Here’s Alex Jones discussing FEMA camps, Martial Law, and false prophet/propagandist Glenn Beck in an extra of the film “Camp FEMA”.
How can the entire Tea Party movement consist of all of the same types of people with all of the same ideologies when many in the movement follow Glenn Beck, who denies there are FEMA camps and who attempts to discredit just about every “conspiracy theory” held by people in the Tea Party movement?
There are talks of one-world governments and a New World Order as well. Here are several clips proving that it is, at the very least, in the political vernacular.
Obama talking about “burdens of global citizenship continue to bind us together”
Scumbag Henry Kissinger calling for a New World Order
Gordon Brown says a New World Order is emerging
George Bush Sr. calling for a New World Order
Yet, according to Billo and Potok, we are “paranoid” by simply repeating what others say.
As far as the secret societies Trilateral Commission and Council on Foreign Relations are concerned, it’s simply a matter of reading what people like David Rockefeller [founder of the aforementioned entities] writes. Since no one but the elites are allowed in their secret meetings, that makes it a tad impossible to report what they discuss. One can only conclude that if something is done in secret, how good can it be? Could you imagine all of the NFL owners meeting secretly and not allowing sports reporters anywhere near the location of the meeting, and then not telling anyone anything that was dicussed? Western civilization as we know it would cease.
David Rockefeller wrote in his 2002 book titled “Memoirs”:
“Some even believe we are part of a secret cabal working against the best interests of the United States, characterizing my family and me as "internationalists" and of conspiring with others around the world to build a more integrated global political and economic structure - one world, if you will. If that's the charge, I stand guilty, and I am proud of it."
Yeah, no evil or conspiracy there, Potok. The guy who founded the two institutions that Potok denied were secret or evil admits that they are secret and evil, but nahhhhhh, that’s not good enough. More evidence is required.
The segment concludes with O’ Reilly asking Potok if he can name one group out there right now who are dangerous, growing fast and that people should be aware of. I bet O’ Reilly was hoping and praying to God that Potok would say 9-11 truthers. Potok said that one group would be the Oath Keepers. Potok tells O’ Reilly that the Oath Keepers [who consist mainly of military and law enforcement personnel] wouldn’t blow up buildings, but their main interest is upholding the Constitution.
Potok commends obeying the Constitution, but then says that the dangerous thing about the group is their fear that Martial Law is coming and that Americans will be put in FEMA camps. Then Potok says:
“The Oath Keepers say specifically: We will not obey these orders. We refuse orders to put Americans in concentration camps. Now, is that dangerous? It seems to me the danger is, is that, these are men and women, in the case of police officers who are give a real power over the rest of us, sometimes the power of life and death, they make very important decisions. And if these men and women are animated by the idea that…foreign forces are about to come into this country and put us under Martial Law and throw us all into concentration camps, I think there is a certain danger associated with that. They operate on the basis of crazy theories, that may cause one of them to draw a gun one day.”
First of all, who ever said that it would be foreign forces that came in and instituted Martial Law? And even it IS foreign forces that came in and did those things, wouldn’t we have the right to defend ourselves according to the Constitution? Wouldn’t that be defense against tyranny?
According to Potok, obeying the Constitution and defending it is very dangerous. I have already posted the clips above that show the threat of Martial Law and FEMA camps are very real. That is the very reason why Oliver North panicked when Jack Brooks questioned him about his involvement in Rex 84 during the Iran-Contra hearings in 1987, because they are very REAL. That is also why Jack Brooks was cut off and his question was never answered.
Naturally, to Potok [and others like him], it’s a “crazy theory” to simply point out what is recorded on videotape and to report on signed legislation.