Wednesday, December 30, 2009

Prison Planet runs story that includes a video narration from bonesman David McCullough


Despite past stories on Prison Planet where they acknowledge McCullough being a bonesman, they run this recent story anyway

by Larry Simons
December 30, 2009

Prison Planet creator Alex Jones has consistently condemned secret societies on his websites and in his movies like “The Order of Death” and “Martial Law: Rise of the Police State”. Jones never makes it a secret that he abhors secret societies like the Bohemian Grove, the Bilderberg Group and Skull & Bones [at Yale University], so why did his website’s moderators post a story today about George Washington that included a video narrated by author and historian David McCullough?

Oh, by the way, McCullough [pictured above] just happens to be a Bonesman. He graduated from Yale University in 1955 and the mention of him as a bonesman is on both his personal wikipedia page and the list of bonesmen wikipedia page.

McCullough's wikipedia page mentions him in Skull and Bones


McCullough is listed in the List of Bonesmen wikipedia page

[click above images to enlarge]

Prison Planet has even acknowledged that McCullough is a bonesman in at least two past stories [from 2004]. One posted from Vanity Fare and one from the Palm Beach Post.

I’m in no way suggesting that McCullough does not write good books or that his research and information is inaccuarte. I wouldn’t know, since I have not read his books or even listened to the narration on the video. I am not even suggesting that Alex Jones is wrong when he talks about the evils of these secret societies. I happen to agree that, at the very least, secret societies accomplish nothing beneficial because I hold the personal belief that nothing good is done in secret.

My only point here is the blatant hypocrisy of Jones making movies and YouTube videos preaching the evils of secret societies, while posting stories on his website that include Bonesmen shown in a favorable light, as if it is an endorsement of Skull and Bones itself.

While it is true that although McCullough is a Bonesman, it does not necessarily invalidate his work; it is also true that if Alex Jones really considered Skull and Bones a “ritualistic cult”, he should make every attempt to distance himself from any association with it. In posting a story that includes a McCullough-narrated video, it clearly indicates that Jones has not distanced himself from the very ritualistic cults he despises.

My question is.......why?

Here’s Alex Jones in 2004 talking about the Skull & Bones secret society, calling it a “ritual generational cult”



Incase Prison Planet deletes this later, here is the screenshot
[click to enlarge]


Other famous Bonesmen include:

George H.W. Bush [41st President]
John Kerry [Massachusetts Senator]
George W. Bush [43rd President]
William F. Buckley, Jr [founder of "National Review"]
Dana Milbank [political reporter, The Washington Post]
Austan Goolsbee [Obama's current Chief Economist]
Prescott Bush [Connecticut Senator, father of Bush-41 and Grandfather of Bush-43]

Speaking of secret societies, tune into "Conspiracy Theory with Jesse Ventura" tonight at 10pm on TruTv for his Secret Societies episode

31 comments:

the_last_name_left said...

why does Alex repeatedly behave like this?

Because he's full of shit? Because he doesn't really care? Because he's a charlatan? A salesman?

Because Alex Jones is himself behaving like a cult leader - and he's finding it all personally very rewarding.

Of course he's "working tirelessly against the NWO" (lol) and it's just a happy coincidence that it makes him money, feeds his ego, and provides a platform for his own very narrow and reactionary political perspective.

I'm looking forward to when you begin to see how Alex Jones has helped corrupt 911 Movement - not benefited it.

Larry said...

"I'm looking forward to when you begin to see how Alex Jones has helped corrupt 911 Movement - not benefited it."

Wait no longer. I already see it. I wrote this story about it on Sept 29, 2009 [in fact, you posted many comments on the thread]:

http://realtruthonline.blogspot.com/2009/09/how-alex-jones-has-damaged-911-truth.html

Anonymous said...

Alex Jones has made the 9/11 more of a joke. He unfortunately is the poster boy for now

the_last_name_left said...

@ Larry

Seeee - we can agreeee. On one thing, at least. Perhaps.

;)

What I don't quite get is how you can say this about AJ - and then hold 95% of what he says as an article of faith.

Alex's faults are present in every single thing he does -- not just occasionally.

For example - have you seen what he's published about the ACLU? Apparently it's caused more harm to America than any other institution in the last 50 years.

communist front group - blah blah blah.

The guy is ridiculous. Always.

Larry said...

Because the things I post from his site are verified with links showing what they are saying is true. I check the article out---always. Who ever said that I take joy in the fact that occasionally me and you agree?

YOUR "stories" on your blog are 99% opinion and speculation. To THIS DAY, you havent PROVEN once that Alex Jones is linked with Willis Carto----you just keep saying it over and over and over and over. Repetition does not make something FACT buddy.

Apparently, you hold the position that, if one source is wrong 5% of the time, they are not to be taken seriously the other 95% of the time. YOU, on the other hand, were CONTINUALLY schooled by yours truly on the 9-11 issue. You would:

1. REPEATEDLY dodge, deflect and ignore my questions and comments on 9-11,

2.purposely OMIT portions of my quotes when you re-posted segments of my stories on your blog as to completely IGNORE the MAIN point I was making,

3. make false statements like The McCormick Center being a 100% universal collapse--only to IGNORE any comment I ever made on it again [and will ignore it THIS time too],

4. then you would enable comment moderation because I was kicking your ASS with all these facts, then LIE about why you enabled it and say you did it because of my "vitriol" and namecalling, despite the fact that I had called you names like asshole and dickhead [because that's what you ARE-----not to be a namecaller per se] from the very beginning AND that even YOU had called ME names like "cunt" and other similar names!

So, using your own standards, then why should I EVER believe a word YOU say about Carto or Mike Rivero, etc...?

When I spot a contradiction even from the very people I SUPPORT, I call them out on it and expose it, thats why Prison Planet completely banned me from their site. That's COMPLETELY different than what, say, Ostroy does. Ostroy goes FAR BEYOND just calling his own out on things.

If he was calling out Obama on discrepencies, that would be commended. But thats NOT what he does. He will say in one article that he loves Obama for example, not being a warmonger and speaking out against Bush's wars...THEN when Obama sends more troops to these wars, Ostroy JUSTIFIES it, saying why we should still remain there [despite the fact that Ostroy wrote story after story before the election saying why the US should get the hell OUT of Iraq and Afghanistan!]

Apparently you dont read my articles on Ostroy, because if you DID, you would be able to copy and paste a CLEAR discrepancy on MY part and share it with me inside this comment box [like you do with any other article you criticize me on]----but when it comes to Ostroy, you want ME to send YOU the very parts that YOU dont agree with! LOL. Not only is that insane, but a CLEAR indication that you CANNOT find a discrepancy on my part, or else you WOULD SHOW ME the discrepancy----right???

But, like my points above, you DODGE and IGNORE that by saying "I should send it to YOU". LOL. Well, I can play the same game. Go to YOUR site [the site tha gets less than ONE hit a day] and copy and paste all the things I dont agree with---k? I'll be waiting.

the_last_name_left said...

Considering your treatment here of AJ and this Bones-man......what about, for example, Jones and his endorsements and publicising of Eustace Mullins?

Go and read this page, and tell me what you make of AJ calling Mullins

"the last living protege of Ezra Pound, the author of the only book burned in Germany since Hitler. Mullins was the grandfather of the movement to expose the Federal Reserve as a private run for profit scam raping the American people and sinking America into endless debt."

I don't accept Mullins' thesis - but regardless of that - what about AJ's endorsement, which omits the least mention of Mullins' anti-semitism and his working with genuine Nazis and fascism for 50 years?

Is Mullins (anti-semite Nazi-lover) the only person Jones could interview about such ideas?

Mind you, it's possible, as the idea is closely attached to the far-right --- it is one of the themes forming the cross-over between US Patriot movement and fascism.

Willis Carto is another proponent of the notion - and he promotes, publishes and sells Mullins. AJ promotes and sells Mullins too ---- never once mentioning Mullins associations with Carto and other fascists which cover 50 years.

the_last_name_left said...

I missed out the link.

Here:
http://ernie1241.googlepages.com/mullins

Real Truth Online said...

That entire post you just left was a COMPLETE dodge and deflect of my post above yours. You addressed NOTHING I said----ZERO, ZILCH. Of course, that's your #1 tactic, isnt it?

I said [above]:

"3. make false statements like The McCormick Center being a 100% universal collapse--only to IGNORE any comment I ever made on it again [and will ignore it THIS time too]"

Hmmmmmm, and I was CORRECT---it WAS ignored. The ENTIRE post was ignored.

Shocker!

Naturally, you will say I ignored YOUR post by telling you that you ignored MINE. LOL.

When you PROVE [the key word is "PROVE"] that Alex Jones is connected with Carto, I will address what you say. Like I said MANY times before---repetition doesnt make something FACT. You have NOT ONCE...NOT ONCE proven a Jones/Carto link.

When will that EVER happen?

Zzzzzzzzzzzz.

the_last_name_left said...

What sort of thing will qualify as "a link"?

ernie1241 said...

In reply to: RealTruthOnline

Suppose we are discussing a left-wing personality.

Suppose you discover that the left-wing personality's writings are favorably mentioned on a particular radio program you listen to and a website which you visit.

Would you consider that as evidence of "a link" between the left-wing personality and the person who created and hosted the website and radio program? Or would you just dismiss those connections as worthless?

Larry said...

Ernie, I have no clue what point youre trying to make. Its CLEAR that frm your comment that you didnt even READ my story. I want you to tell ME what you think the point of this story was, but AFTER you READ it. I am so sick and fucing tired of people commenting on my stories when they have not even READ them.

What's the link between your comment and my story???

ernie1241 said...

Larry -- I was attempting to discover what type of data you accept as credible "proof" in the context of this comment:

"When you PROVE [the key word is 'PROVE'] that Alex Jones is connected with Carto, I will address what you say."

In my experience, it always is helpful to first ask questions which reveal what are the basic operating principles, Otherwise, no amount of factual data will ever be accepted.

For example: language can be used to confuse an issue --and not clarify whatever is in dispute. Consequently, one has to understand what type of data you (or anyone else) considers "proof".

Larry said...

Here are a few things that would constitute "proof":

A story written by Jones saying he supports Carto

A photograph of Alex Jones WITH Carto

Posting stories on Prison Planet or Infowars written by Carto

Jones quoting Carto in his stories

So far, to this date, The Last Name Left has not provided ONE WORD of proof theres a link between Jones and Carto---he just SAYS it OVER and OVER and OVER and OVER and OVER again. Repetition is NOT proof.

A shared belief in a particular ideology is NOT proof of a connection. Me and George W Bush could both agree that his foreign policy is RIGHT [which I dont]--but that doesnt mean we're linked--does it?

You should be asking TLNL to PROVE what he says is TRUE----not what I consider to BE proof. Has he provided one SPEC of proof so far? I think its common sense to know what constitutes proof without having to ask it! Youre just deflecting the issue at hand by asking that. Would you stand in a courtroom and ask "Ok, you want proof---but first can you TELL me what constitutes proof?" If you dont know that ALREADY, youre either playing dumb or really ARE dumb!

ernie1241 said...

Well, Larry, I was going to address what you identified as acceptable types of "proof" but you are so rude and personally abusive, I don't see the point.

Contrary to what you wrote, it is NOT self-evident what types of data people are willing to accept as "proof" for whatever matter is under discussion. That is why I asked my original question.

Larry said...

"I was going to address what you identified as acceptable types of "proof" but you are so rude and personally abusive, I don't see the point."

Ahhh, the old "Larry, youre rude, so Im not going to address you" routine. Quite amusing. TLNL uses that technique quite often when he's backed into a corner and is unable to respond.

I give you the answer you asked for and since you have ZERO examples of connections between Jones and Carto, you weasel out of addressing me by saying "im rude". Where was I "abusive" in my last post? I said "either youre PLAYING dumb or you are dumb!"----that was a choice. I wasnt saying you are either one, it was an either/or statement. It was just your excuse to get out of actually giving me PROOF that theres a Jones/Carto connection. Just like TLNL does constantly, I guess you dont have to answer me now since Im "rude"----LOL.

the_last_name_left said...

hi ernie. Yep - Larry is a real "livewire".

To Larry's credit, he did remove his links to Carto's AFP after having (presumably) satisfied himself that Carto is far-right, anti-semitic propagandist.

(Larry hasn't explained quite why he removed the AFP links. So it's purely my assumption that Larry considers Carto "beyond the pale".)

To an extent, Larry, I think you're right to insist on strong evidence for "links" between people......but that has to operate both ways, right? You must live up to your own standards too?

You say some "proof" of Jones' ties with Carto could be had by providing a photo?

Well, here's a photo:

LINK

What's that "proof" of Larry?

-------------

L: Posting stories on Prison Planet or Infowars written by Carto

Jones quoting Carto in his stories


Yes, well Mr Carto doesn't really operate like that, Larry. He's more organiser and co-ordinator than writer and radio personality.

For example.......go and read the page I linked to - the one at ernie's place.

It's about Eustace Mullins.

Then go and look at my page on Mullins......and Prisonplanet's promotion of him.

Go and have a look for references to Mullins at Prisonplanet in google etc.......watch Alex Jones venerate him as "a historian", "a great man", "fighting the good fight", and all the rest of it.

Watch Alex say you can buy Mullins' book from Prisonplanet......watch him say "It's published by AFP"?

See how many times Prisonplanet links to AFP? Prisonplanet even redirects to AFP - seemingly Prisonplanet even hosts some articles lifted directly off of AFP.......not just the textual content but the whole page, images and all.

AFP is Willis Carto, Larry.

If Carto was on Jones' programs instead of his authors and proteges, it wouldn't be possible for people such as yourself to deny there were "links".......it would be impossible for AJ to deny his promotion of the far-right, and his sympathy with its views.

I mean, it's impossible for Alex to dent it now - but only if you know anything about the subject - and most people don't, because they have no reason to do so.

That's why Carto operates as he does - and why Alex operates as he does.

There's a dishonesty and subterfuge built-in from the beginning........that needs be understood, I think.

So, Larry - let's see what we can make concrete? have you read the ernie page on Mullins? What do you think of Mullins and his milieu? How would you describe it? Far-right......proto-nazi? Crypto-Nazi? Fascist? Anti-semitic? Paranoid, manipulative, anti-communist, revisionist, subversive?

This is what Willis Carto publishes......it's what Carto is about. Its also what Alex Jones happens to call "great history writing"......by "a great man" etc......Alex publicises it, promotes it on his show, prints articles of it, links to AFP, AND SELLS THE BOOKS AT PRISONPLANET AND ADVERTISES THEM THROUGH HIS RADIO AND TVSHOW.

This is far more substantial than a mere photo can be.

the_last_name_left said...

that link didn't work.......

here it is again:

http://littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/pictures/20071220RonPaulDonBlack.jpg

or

Ron Paul and Stormfront.....

Larry said...

You attempt to link Jones with Carto by talking about Mullins the entire post? After all your mumbo-jumbo, you STILL didnt provide ONE link between Carto and Jones!

The link you sent was a picture of Ron Paul with a couple of white supremicists-----NOT a picture of Jones with Carto [as I said would be proof].

What does the Ron Paul picture prove? To me it proves ONE thing: That Ron Paul is gracious enough to grant someone's request to take a picture with him. Are you suggesting that Ron Paul is a white supremicist because he's in a picture with 2 white supremicists? So, if you was running for President and you didnt know who I was and I asked to take a picture with you and you agreed---could I justifiably say that you were a 9/11 truther because you were in a photo with one?

Is Ron Paul supposed to ask what person's beliefs and ideologies are before he poses in pictures with them?

Is it supposed to go like this?:

PERSON: Hey Mr. Paul, can we get a picture?

RON PAUL: It all depends--what do you believe?

Youre insane!

Where's the photo showing Jones with CARTO??????????? Wheres the PP stories quoting Carto?? Where's the stories written by Carto posted on PP? Enough of your mumbo-jumbo and give me DIRECTLY what I ask for, dickhead!

the_last_name_left said...

Larry - you earlier said that PROOF of Jones' links to Carto could be had by providing a photo of Jones with Carto.

When I presented you with a photo, of RonPaul with Stormfronters, you refuse to accept it as proof of anything about RonPaul.

So......you were clearly being dishonest when you earlier said a photo of someone with someone else would suffice as proof of a link between people.

It doesn't work with RonPaul, so it won't work with Alex Jones.

This is why ground rules need to be set --- which is what ernie and myself attempted to do.

You are not honest enough to "get it". You do not have the wit to understand.

Larry said...

My god, you are an IDIOT! For one, the fact that you CANNOT provide a photo with Carto and Jones together is evidence in and of itself that youre a fraud.

Secondly, do you think Ron Paul even knew who those two guys were?? I didnt know who they were until I saw it on sites like Neiwerts. It isnt like Black and whoever the hell that other guy is are FAMOUS people. Ron Paul is expected to know who EVERYONE is who asks for a picture taken with him?? I bet a million dollars if the lead singer of Keane asked to be in a picture with Ron Paul, he wouldnt know who he was either! Do you think Ron Paul knows who EVERYONE is? Ron Paul probably wouldnt know who alot of CELEBRITIES are, let alone people who are a part of some fringe white supremicist group that 0.2 percent of the population has even heard of!

I would think that if Alex Jones was in a picture with Willis Carto, both of them would know who the other is since it Jones' JOB to know alot of people who are NOT widely known.

I bet YOU dont know the identities of many people you even BLOG about. Are you going to tell me you know what EVERYONE you blog about looks like???? I didnt know what David McCullough looked like until I looked it up and posted that picture! So, using YOUR logic. Before I posted that story, if I had been in a photograph with McCullough, that means McCullough supports 9/11 truthers? You didnt answer my question either---this one:

"So, if you was running for President and you didnt know who I was and I asked to take a picture with you and you agreed---could I justifiably say that you were a 9/11 truther because you were in a photo with one?"

Are you going to answer that? I doubt you will.

Youre equating that relationship between Jones/Carto with Ron Paul and 2 virtually unknown white supremacists??? There's ZERO evidence anyway that Ron Paul is a racist----can you name ONE thing that supports he holds white supremacist views??

Its clear that you have NO EVIDENCE that suggests Jones is associated with Carto-----you have YET to supply me with a photo of them two together [BOTH of those guys would KNOW who each other is], a PP posted article written by Carto, or a Carto quote in a PP story. So, far you are batting .000. When will you DIRECTLY give me what I asked for????

When...oh when??????

Or are you gonna send another UNRELATED photo that means NOTHING?

the_last_name_left said...

Your own attachment to Alex Jones (and the 911 Troof "movement") are blinding you to objective reality, Larry.

That's exactly the result Carto (and Jones) must be hoping for.

Sometimes there's no helping you, Larry. Most times, tbh.

Larry said...

LOL, thats what I thought. You REFUSE to provide ONE SHRED of evidence. I guess you couldnt find a picture of Ron Paul with Anton LaVey to attempt to make your point, lol.

When will you answer my question and provide me with DIRECT proof? When??? When????

Im ASKING you for PROOF and you keep blowing it off, stalling and blowing smoke to divert away from the issue. Give me ONE thing from the list of things I asked for...just ONE.

WHEN will you answer this question?:

"So, if you was running for President and you didnt know who I was and I asked to take a picture with you and you agreed---could I justifiably say that you were a 9/11 truther because you were in a photo with one?"

the_last_name_left said...

L: you have YET to supply me with a photo of them two together [BOTH of those guys would KNOW who each other is]

indeed. They both would certainly know whom the other was.

You already know this - so what do you want the photo for?

Alex Jones publishes much AFP material.......all of the Bildeburg rubbish, for example, is Jim Tucker (AFP). Moreover, Tucker - whom appears in Alex's Endgame, and in many interviews and articles at Prisonplanet - has been a close colleague of Carto's for 20 years.

This is *more* than a photo, Larry.

It's also far more than a single direct quote from Carto appearing at Prisonplanet.

Anyway - leaving Carto aside.......

What about MULLINS?

Jones has had Mullins on his show plenty of times.

Do you disbelieve this, or do you disbelieve what is written about Mullins - for example at ernie's pages?

Do you need a photo of Jones with Mullins, or will Jones' own word do?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4tBt5TRw4UY

Jones says

I am honoured to be joined by Eustace Mullins.......

....he is literally a modern day founding father in the 2nd American Revolution.......


Go and read ernie's pages for a more complete description of what Eustace Mullins is.

Alex calls Mullins "a living legend".

"Credibility is a sine qua non of propaganda's acceptance."

the_last_name_left said...

Here's an interesting and revealing post about Alex Jones from someone at Stormfront......



Javatime84
05-09-2009, 08:02 PM
[Alex Jones is] something of an anomaly. He frequently invokes the Nazis, yet he must realize that the "New World Order" people are doing the exact opposite of what the National Socialists believed. The National Socialists were racial separatists, they believed Germany should belong to Germans. The "New World Order" believes Germany should belong to Arabs and Asians and Africans, and the United States should belong to Mexicans. The National Socialists were not big fans of merging different racial groups and breaking down racial barriers, so what is this so-called parallel between the National Socialists and the NWO? It's more like they were on opposite ends of the battlefield.


This Stormfronter puts Stromfront "National Socialism" on the opposite end of the spectrum to the NWO. Which means.......if Alex opposes NWO so much, he must be somewhere near the Stormfronters, politically.

I also found it hard to believe a man who talks about the Federal Reserve as much as he does hasn't read the names of the five Governors and realized they're five Jewish names.

Alex doesn't have to say it himself, does he? His audience knows what he means........and if not, introducing the naiive ones to Eustace Mullins should do the trick, right? Especially when Alex tells them Mullins is a "great historian".....and a modern-day founding father! (Why not tell them he's a nazi?)

On the other hand, even all of this considered, I don't think he's a Zionist. Zionists don't talk about International Bankers and Central Banking, they stay away from those topics like kryptonite. Zionists also don't propose alternate 9/11 theories. The destruction of those towers was the golden egg which is used to justify USA intervention into the Middle East on Israel's behalf. The Zionists are perfectly happy with the official story of 9/11 just the way it is.

As I've said before - 911 conspiracy segues into the wider far-right, proto-fascist conspiracies of which "World Joooish conspiracy" is the major theme. And thence the interest in 911 Troof from fascism, and from anti-semites more generally.

A Stromfronter has just articulated my argument for me.

the_last_name_left said...

Stormfronter: I'm guessing he knows the Fed is Jewish but he's not saying it on the radio because he'd immediately get booted off the air. I think what he's doing is laying out part of it and hoping people will figure out the rest of it.

As I've said before : whether Jones is conscious of it or not is subsidiary to the fact that he is *functioning* as a vector for anti-semitism, whether conscious or not.

"International Bankers" is an obvious euphemism to anti-semites, for example.

The Stormfronter elaborates:

He's saying, "Hey we have a problem here, the Fed is a private corporation" and he's saying "These are the people responsible, Bernanke, Greenspan, and so on" but he's hoping people can figure out the Jewish part on their own.

Maybe Alex isn't hoping for that.......maybe the Stromfronter is wrong.

But Alex's employment of Jim Tucker, his publicising of Carto's AFP, and his promotion of Eustace Mullins' rubbish hardly help the argument any.

Doesn't Alex know that these people *are* going that extra step and clearly saying "JOOOOOS!"?

He must know. So.....Alex knows he doesnt have to say it - and indeed, both he and his guests are extremely careful *not* to say it......even when the guests normally wouldn't hesitate to say it.

And look at Alex's descriptions of Mullins? Even when he must know Mullins real background and views......

This is all evidence that Alex is doing it *consciously*. Stromfront Lite. My First Stormfront. Trainer Stormfront.

Another SF'er says:

In all of Jones' very excellent DVDs he exposes everything the Jews are doing, even though he doesn't refer to them as Jews. Instead, he uses such generic terms as globalists, Illuminati, etc.

I've made that very point myself.

Is it because Alex is actually a bit dim and doesn't know what he's talking about, or is it because he purposefully seeks to use generic placeholder terms to disguise the real target - "jooooos" - and thereby escape the censure any openly anti-semitic source would generate?

Who can say? But it's clear Alex has guests.......with whom he never broaches the subjects of

1) their anti-semitism, or
2) their ties to the far-right, organised fascism, nazism etc.

Some Stormfronters take exception to Jones' avoidance of anti-semitism/joooos.

That's actually the subject of one of the conversations Poplawski had been in over at Stormfront - about Jones' "avoidance" of "the real issue".........joooos.

Larry said...

"You already know this - so what do you want the photo for?"

Because it would PROVE there's a connection between them [since BOTH WOULD KNOW WHO THEY ARE!]----Duhhhhhhhhh

On the other hand, your Ron Paul picture proved NOTHING since there was probably a 100% chance Ron Paul didnt know who the fuck those 2 guys were!

"Alex Jones publishes much AFP material.......all of the Bildeburg rubbish, for example, is Jim Tucker (AFP). Moreover, Tucker - whom appears in Alex's Endgame, and in many interviews and articles at Prisonplanet - has been a close colleague of Carto's for 20 years."

Then it should be REAL SIMPLE to provide some links to that----so far, after Ive asked DOZENS OF TIMES, you have yet to provide ONE link proving what you just said!

Because Jones has someone ON HIS SHOW does NOT constitute the host having any connection or shared ideologies with the guest. Jesse Ventura has been a guest on the Opie and Anthony show several times talking about 9/11 and Opie and Anthony dont agree with him---so whats your point? Having someone as a GUEST does not prove shit. The things I asked for WOULD prove it, but STILL--as usual, you REFUSE to give me ONE thing Ive asked for.

Alex DID have pastor Steve Anderson on his show and said "Im honored to have him on" and I condemned Jones for that---as he should be.

Ill ask this for the LAST time. If you ignore it this time, I will have to conclude you refuse to answer because youre just too damned pussy to answer it:

"So, if you was running for President and you didnt know who I was and I asked to take a picture with you and you agreed---could I justifiably say that you were a 9/11 truther because you were in a photo with one?"

I dont FOLLOW Alex Jones. I follow the Constitution and our founding fathers writings. I dont even follow Ron Paul. Im sure he has flaws, but so far, I havent seen any in him. I dont follow people----I follow our founding documents.

the_last_name_left said...

it should be REAL SIMPLE to provide some links to that----so far, after Ive asked DOZENS OF TIMES, you have yet to provide ONE link proving what you just said!

What exactly are you referring to?

I've provided you evidence of Jim Tucker's history with Spotlight and AFP before.

You've surely got Endgame handy yourself?

Put Jim tucker and prisonplanet into google - you'll find plenty.

Check my blog - plenty there on it too.

Granted, if someone appears in an interview, we can't automatically infer the interviewer is sympathetic to the views of the interviewee.

But in Jones' case it's different - he never has stuff on with which he disagrees......and in fact he obviously *agrees* with Jim Tucker and Mullins.....as is obvious from the content of the interviews and what Jones publishes at PP.

I already said about RP's photo with stormfronters.......he might not have known who they were.

The fact still remains that SF supported RonPaul - and they obviously saw him as standing for something they wished to support.

What? Any ideas?

Larry said...

"What exactly are you referring to?"

Are you retarded? Im referring to what Ive been asking for for over a week now------------------PICTURES that show Jones and Carto TOGETHER, PP stories that are written BY Carto----PP stories that quote Carto. Youre still batting .000. Gonna show me ONE link of anything I asked for??

Sure, a picture showing Ron Paul TOGETHER with two unknown stormfront people doesnt prove that two people in the same picture means they are linked-----but as I SAID-----JONES and CARTO together sure would since THEY WOULD KNOW WHO EACH OTHER IS!

I cant wait to see you chop up my above comment and take it out of context. Youll write back and say "See you admit it---you said "a picture showing Ron Paul TOGETHER with two unknown stormfront people doesnt prove that two people in the same picture means they are linked" and compltely leave off the rest of that sentence.

I see you now ADMIT that my question was too hard for you to answer. The one I asked you 6 times now:

"So, if you was running for President and you didnt know who I was and I asked to take a picture with you and you agreed---could I justifiably say that you were a 9/11 truther because you were in a photo with one?"

Its clear, youre afraid to answer it. I rest my case.

the_last_name_left said...

you're silly - as is your question.

Larry said...

BRILLIANT, BRILLIANT answer, LOL.

you're silly - as is your question.

Translation: "I cant answer it without it contradicting what I said and without it stabbling me in the foot"

I didnt ask for your critique of the question. I asked for you to answer it---of which you couldnt---lol.

Larry said...

And you COMPLETELY ignored my last post-----shocking! lol