Monday, September 21, 2009

This Week in Dave the Fraud: Dave loves him some fiction!

Our favorite fraudster pushing fiction? You mean, other than the Bible and the official 9/11 account?

by Larry Simons
September 21, 2009

Sorry it has been awhile since I posted anything about RTO’s favorite religious fraud, David H. Willis, but it’s not my fault. He had taken a “vacation” for most of August. I guess for a minister that means he got to sleep in seven days a week instead of his usual six. I was sad; only because it had left me high and dry of any new tales of fraudiness from the #1 religious fraudster.

He posted a short brain fart on September 3 telling his 7 readers about a new book he thinks is fascinating [I’ve always been astounded that anyone could get excited about a new book on the Bible; how can you say anything new about it?]. The book is called, “Who Stole My Church?” [sounds fascinating]. David H. Fraud says this:

“I'd wholeheartedly recommend MacDonald's work especially to anyone involved in a established church and looking to make some methodological changes. This is a fictional work but is still VERY REALISTIC. MacDonald writes of a weekly meeting he has with a group of older church members who are uncomfortable with the direction of the church and the changes that are being proposed. You will see people you know in this book - maybe even yourself. The funny thing was that I skipped the intro stuff and didn't realize it was fictional at first. I did have my suspiciaons!” [misspellings Willis’, not mine]

A fictional work but still very realistic? I guess it’s not shocking that Dave “I’m all about the truth” Willis would endorse works of fiction. He reads the Bible and believes the official account of 9/11, two of the biggest works of fiction ever written.

The part that made me laugh out loud was when the fraudster said:

“The funny thing was that I skipped the intro stuff and didn't realize it was fictional at first.”

Why would he realize it was fiction? It’s not like he can tell the two [fact and fiction] apart! He believes that 500 year old men build boats the size of the Titanic all by themselves, the sun stands still and snakes speak to people [and believes it’s literal Mr. Ed-to-Wilbur-style talking!] He also believes the official fairy tale account of 9/11. He believes that planes vaporize, buildings collapse due to fire alone [though it’s never happened before], passports and human flesh can withstand fiery flames [even when those same flames vaporize planes], that people can correctly predict that a building will collapse [due to fire alone] although there is no precedent for it.

Dave “I’m all about the truth” Willis truly is a believer of miracles and fiction. This story by him wasn’t surprising…..just funny!

21 comments:

Anonymous said...

the only other person that makes last name left look sensible. wheres jizzz eerrr jas. he tried to debate but lost. tony thinks his buddy dave the fraud has lost it. why would somebody who is all about the truth ask people to read fiction? fraud is right.

tony wolf said...

im embarrassed that dave is making himself look like this.

the_last_name_left said...

You're being horrible to him, Larry. Why?

Larry said...

You have NO CLUE what the history is between Willis and me--so please, ONLY speak about what you KNOW about. I could give you a link to read, but youd ignore it--like you do everything else.

Oh, and by the way---I thought you HAD NO TIME to reply to things, yet youve responded to like 6 stories today alone. Hmmmmmmm.

the_last_name_left said...

I did go to Willis' site a long time back.......I saw you being horrible to him over there too.

That's enough to know that you are horrible to him.

Larry said...

"Horrible" meaning crushing him with fact after fact after fact and being banned because he accused me of "vile" comments when I said no such thing? I was KICKING HIS ASS with facts.

Read my story of him winning the 2008 Fraud of the Year award--its on the right side---scroll up and click his picture and read.

the_last_name_left said...

I read it when I first came here.

Only in your own opinion do you "crush people with facts", L.

FWIW I thought you were pretty vile towards Willis.

He gave you a hearing.......but seemingly he disagrees with your view.

People are allowed to believe differently to you, aren't they? No need to be horrible about it.

Larry said...

Then I guess you read the part where Willis was very acceptive of my views and even said:

"Hey bro. I'm about truth - the real truth, so I weigh everything based whether it is true or not. I can't stand when people are afraid to examine an issue to see if they've sold a bunch of...I recently discovered Alex Jones. Whenever I hear the "mainstreamers" dismiss him it makes all the more interested in what he has to say. When I hear an outcry against people being lunatics, etc. it usually sparks my curiosity."

Then when I criticized RELIGION, that's when he went apeshit and started calling me a nutjob. That's called being a FRAUD.

I guess it's hard for you to spot a fraud since you ARE one.

He, like YOU, also claimed he "had no time" to look at the evidence I gave him, but yet he had PLENTY of time to write stories about meaningless issues like when to not use windshield wiper fluid. You also have said "I have no time" but yet seem to have plenty of time to comment on 9 of my stories. FRAUD.

Larry said...

"People are allowed to believe differently to you, aren't they? No need to be horrible about it."

Sure they are. But they are NOT allowed to base that belief on lies, assumptions and already debunked fables. He used Popular Mechanics as his source! 'nuff said.

the_last_name_left said...

You use Alex Jones........nuff said.

And Willis Carto. Iranian state TV.

Chris Bollyn. Loosechange. Mike Ruppert. Rivero. Rense. etc.

That's hardly a position from which to lecture about sources.

And don't be silly - it takes much less time to give an off-hand reply than it does to address your 200 questions properly.

You still haven't EVER explained the one question I asked you........what's your explanation for 911 re controlled demolition. WHO WHAT WHEN HOW etc.

Funny - you have time to write 200 questions for me.........and new articles......but you don't have time to even begin addressing an explanation of your most basic premise about what you appear to consider to be the crucial aspect of 911 - controlled demolition.

WHO WHAT WHEN HOW, Larry?

Take time to address that before lecturing others on avoiding issues?

Anonymous said...

larry, he danced around the point again. this last name is a complete jack ass. he makes dave the fraud look good.

the real last name left said...

this last name and dave the fraud are in the same boat. all bullshit. ignore the issues, then when thier beat, witch they usualy are they give the who cares response. typical of a fraud.

Larry said...

“And don't be silly - it takes much less time to give an off-hand reply than it does to address your 200 questions properly.”

200 huh? Sure, I can falsely inflate numbers too. You have answered 1,000 of my questions. See how easy that is? Since your reading skills are very poor---I will say it AGAIN: I don’t STOP asking a question simply because you IGNORE it..I just add it to my list of unanswered questions. You do not get to IGNORE a question and then it goes forgotten---so if the number really IS 200 [which it’s not] that’s a negative reflection on YOUR part---it’s basically an admittance that you fail to answer questions!

“You still haven't EVER explained the one question I asked you........what's your explanation for 911 re controlled demolition. WHO WHAT WHEN HOW etc.

Funny - you have time to write 200 questions for me.........and new articles......but you don't have time to even begin addressing an explanation of your most basic premise about what you appear to consider to be the crucial aspect of 911 - controlled demolition.”

I actually DID address that---and you even commented to my response to that! By the way, good job IGNORING the stuff I said about Willis.

“Take time to address that before lecturing others on avoiding issues?”

Ive said over and over, when you answer ALL the questions I asked [which was BEFORE the ones you asked], I’ll answer YOURS. The one you asked above I DID address, but yet you keep asking it over and over. The big difference between me and you is: When I ask a question over and over, it’s because you’ve IGNORED it. When you ask over and over, I either ignored it because you havent answered MINE first [in order], or I DID answer it and you didn’t like the answer.

the_last_name_left said...

L: You do not get to IGNORE a question and then it goes forgotten

But LArry gets to ignore anything he likes?

WHO WHAT WHEN HOW for controlled demolition, Larry????

L: Ive said over and over, when you answer ALL the questions I asked [which was BEFORE the ones you asked], I’ll answer YOURS.

Oh, rubbish!

You haven't addressed one of the first questions I asked you back in early August - ARE YOU AN ARCHITECT, LARRY?

You haven't addressed another of the first questions I asked you back in August - "WHO WHAT WHEN HOW for controlled demolition"????

If, as you claim, you already answered it.........where is the answer? Let's have it?

Larry said...

From October 1 at 9:00PM, this was my answer:

"So, in other words, you want the 9/11 truth movement to come up with the who, what, where, when and why" all by THEMSELVES when the MAIN PURPOSE of this movement for 8 years now has been to get a REAL investigation started---this time a REAL independent one? The first one was performed by ALL Bush White House appointees----headed by a 20 year White House employee, Philip Zelikow, who co-authored a book with Condi Rice!!!! THATS independent????? How could the White House ever take the blame for any of it when every single member was appointed BY the White House? So, you want ME to give all the answers that would take a solid REAL independent investigation to uncover? Thats an argument from ignorance. We KNOW there IS a cover-up, but we dont know the fine details----thats the whole purpose of the investigation we want started!!!

But, we DO have fine details of whats been covered up. Ive been talking about those fine details non-stop with you for months. In other words: we have enough solid evidence to get the investigation started. But unless someone like me says: "9/11 was done by _____ and ______ and _____ an ______, that means we're full of shit??? There would NEVER be investigations anywhere if all the facts were brought to light and there were never any cover-ups!

Even if we had Dick Cheney HIMSELF ADMITTING on tape that HE orchestrted 9/11---we'd STILL need to do an investigation and go to trial! What is your point??

The fact alone that the first 9/11 ivestigation was a COMPLETE whitewash and 6 of its mebers have already whistleblown and said they were "set up to fail", is all the evidence we need that they are SCARED SHITLESS of having a REAL investigation. If YOU are right and there is NO conspiracy----why all the secrecy?? Why the whitewashing? Why did 9/11 FAMILIES have to BEG and PLEAD for 441 days to get one started? Even when it did, many of the families at the commission held up signs that said "LIES" on them and screamed at the commission during the investigtion?? Why all the lies? Why the hiding???? Hmmmmmm???

Even YOU have distorted my quotes in your answers and have IGNORED many of my questions----and youre a NOBODY. Imagine how much GREATER the lies are from the very people who are actually involved in the cover-up!

You asking me for SPECIFIC answers when you KNOW I have no idea who actually pulled off 9/11, is called an argument from ignorance. Thats when you ask someone to give very specific facts ALREADY KNOWING they cant supply them and therefore you think you have WON the argument because of something they cant answer. We KNOW there's a cover-up----as for WHO did it an WHO ALL is involvd? Thats where the investigation comes in."

You even RESPONDED to it, and you claimed I "didnt answer it".

Please have a real time debate with me-----I would love to embarrass you. Ahhhh, yes, you keep turning the "nut" down---I wonder why??

Anonymous said...

larry, this asshole wants the raped to hunt thier own rapist and convict him. hes a tird.

the_last_name_left said...

L: So, you want ME to give all the answers that would take a solid REAL independent investigation to uncover?

No - I asked for YOUR FUCKING OPINION YOU DISHONEST, LYING, CHEATING CUNT.

I SHANT ASK AGAIN - I'M NOT WASTING MY TIME ON SOMEONE WHO IS TOO COWARDLY TO GIVE THEIR OWN OPINION.

Larry said...

HEY DIPSHIT-----the re-posted quote above IS MY ANSWER, YOU DUMBFUCK!!!!

You SHANT ask again? God, that sounds like the vocabulary of a cross-dresser.

Larry said...

"No - I asked for YOUR FUCKING OPINION YOU DISHONEST, LYING, CHEATING CUNT."

LOL, I love watching someone implode, LOL. By the way, we call it a PUSSY here.

the_last_name_left said...

we call you a coward here

Larry said...

We call you people whimps and sissies here, thats why we kicked your ass in the Revolutionary War and became a great country. Freedom Forever baby!