Wednesday, May 27, 2009

And yet another moron who thinks the founding fathers were Christians and America was founded on Christianity


Another moronic politician who believes our founding documents were based on the Bible. Fails to mention America may not have been a country if the founders were truly Christian! What part of ‘separation of church and state’ do these imbeciles not grasp?

by Larry Simons
May 27, 2009

On Fox and Friends yesterday, Rep. Paul Broun (R-GA), was on to talk about the bill that is being worked on to designate the year 2010 as “The Year of the Bible”.

When asked “why are you doing this?”, this was his response:

“Well, it’s all about freedom actually. The Bible was the basis for our laws. It was the basis of the Constitution of the United States, the Declaration of Independence. The Bible was the founding source. In fact, our founding fathers quoted the Bible more than any other resource when they established this country. We’ve forgotten that. We need to go back to those principles that the Bible teaches, of things such as personal responsibility and accountability and freedom.”

The Bible was the basis of our nation. And as we look to the future, and as we deal with our economic problems, as we're stealing our grandchildren's future, we need to look at the principles that were taught Biblically. When our Founding Fathers established this country, they established it on freedom. That's what the Bible teaches. Every single one of our laws are based on the Biblical precepts. And we need to turn back to those precepts if our country's going to be strong and great again.

It's absolutely critical for us to understand what freedom's all about, what our own responsibility is all about, and what government's function within our society is supposed to be. And we have forgotten that in Washington. We are heading down a road that's going to destroy our nation. We are headed toward a total government control of everybody's lives -- a loss of freedom, a loss of our money, a loss of our private property -- and it's extremely critical now for us to go back to those foundational principles that this country was founded upon.

That's the reason a proclamation of "The Year of the Bible" will help people understand what the importance of those, um, principles are all about as we go forward to make our nation secure, free, and great again.”


watch the clip


Most of the third paragraph (above) was absolutely correct. The rest of it was total bullshit and just plain lies. If I see one more person on TV say that any of our founding documents were based on the Bible or founding fathers were Christians, I think my head will explode like Louis Del Grande’s did in Scanners.

Everytime I see someone on TV say the founding fathers were Christians and the founding documents were based on the Bible, I will post this same post (below) as kind of a shout out from the grave of our founders to the complete morons in our society and worse, in Washington.

Our founders relied mostly on human reason, not spirituality or religion. Thomas Jefferson said that the power of the government is derived from the governed….us, the people (“We the people..”). Most of our founders were deists. They believed in a creator, but not a creator that interacted personally with humans. They acknowledged Jesus, but not as divinity. Most did not believe the most fundamental teachings of the Bible (miracles, communion, resurrection, holy spirit, trinity, divinity of Christ). Most of them were profoundly opposed to the Bible.

Thomas Jefferson even wrote his own Bible. A new version of the New Testament, titled, “The Life and Morals of Jesus of Nazareth” where he omitted references to angels, prophecy, genealogy, miracles, the divinity of Christ, the resurrection and anything supernatural. Does that sound “Christian”???

What is astounding is the utter irony of saying that our nation was founded on Christian principles, yet when we look at passages from the Bible, we see that if the founders had been Christian men, there most likely would not have been a Revolutionary War at all and we would still be under the rule of England. In fact, many still believe that we really are still under England’s rule and that the Revolutionary War changed nothing.

If the following passages from scripture would have been heeded by our founders, our country would not have rebelled against the tyranny of England, and thus, no America. Ironic how America is seen by the majority of Americans as God's country, but yet had God's word been followed, there would have been no place for God to lay his hat.

"For rebellion as is the sin of witchcraft." 1 Samuel, 15:23

1 Peter 2:13: "For the Lord's sake accept the authority of every human institution, whether of the emperor as supreme, or of governors, as sent by him to punish those who do wrong and to praise those who do right."

Paul wrote in Romans 13:1: "Let every person be subject to the governing authorities; for there is no authority except from God, and those authorities that exist have been instituted by God. Therefore whoever resist authority resists what God has appointed, and those who resist will incur judgment."

Here are the religious affiliations and beliefs of our founding fathers (and the yes/no’s of their beliefs)


George Washington
Affiliation: Deist
Communion: No
Confirmation: No
Resurrection: Unknown
Christ’s divinity: Unknown
Trinity: Unknown
Miracles: Unknown


Thomas Jefferson
Affiliation: Deist/Unitarian
Communion: No
Confirmation: No
Resurrection: No
Christ’s divinity: No
Trinity: No
Miracles: No


John Adams
Affilaition: Unitarian/Deist/Calvinist
Communion: Unknown
Confirmation: Unknown
Resurrection: Yes
Christ’s divinity: Yes
Trinity: No
Miracles: Yes


Benjamin Franklin
Affiliation: Deist
Communion: No
Confirmation: No
Resurrection: No
Christ’s divinity: No
Trinity: No
Miracles: Unknown


James Madison
Affiliation: Episcopal/Deist
Communion: No
Confirmation: No
Resurrection: Unknown
Christ’s divinity: Unknown
Trinity: No
Miracles: Unknown


James Monroe
Affiliation: Unitarian/Deist
Communion: No
Confirmation: No
Resurrection: Unknown
Christ’s divinity: Unknown
Trinity: Unknown
Miracles: Unknown


Thomas Paine
Affiliation: Deist
Communion: No
Confirmation: No
Resurrection: No
Christ’s divinity: No
Trinity: No
Miracles: No


Samuel Adams
Affiliation: Orthodox
Communion: Unknown
Confirmation: N/A
Resurrection: Yes
Christ’s divinity: Yes
Trinity: Yes
Miracles: Yes

Samuel Adams may be the only legitimate Christian among our founders. If every founder was a replica of Sam Adams, then maybe morons like Paul Broun would be correct.

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