Friday, November 30, 2007

Ron Paul educates McCain on vocabulary and world history. Continues to dominate online polls


McCain is asked about taxes and decides ‘what a great opportunity to attack Ron Paul’…and is booed and like everyone who talks about “winning” in Iraq, fails to give a definition to the word “win”

by Larry Simons
November 29, 2007

John McCain is a bought and paid for Neo-con stooge. How else do you explain after being asked about taxes, that he picks this opportunity to attack Ron Paul about wanting our troops to come home? It almost looked scripted. McCain found out, like the other candidate have, that when you attempt to attack Ron Paul, it just blows back up in your face and makes you look like an idiot. In McCain’s case, it made him look more idiotic than he usually is!

McCain played the “the troops want to win the war” card, and told Paul, “I was just over there and their message was ‘Let us win’”. Of course, who knows what the fuck “win” means? And naturally McCain, like all the rest who support this illegal, unconstitutional war, fails to provide a definition of the word “win”.

Does “win” mean going for the Guinness Book records for invading the most countries under a single administration, being hated by the most countries at once or coming up with the most excuses for invading a country? (war on terror, Iraqi freedom, WMD’s, 9-11, defeating al Qaeda, killing Saddam, finding bin Laden) If this is what the warmongers mean by “win”, then we are on the brink of victory.

The truth is, “win” is neither an option, possibility or even the goal of this war by Bush. Bush wants this war to be chaotic. He wants the death. He wants the destruction. He wants this because he wants this war to last DECADES. He wants a permanent occupation of the middle east so we can control the oil and establish military bases in every nook and cranny of that region. Bush once had most of the country fooled into believing we were there to actually “win” something. With the war going as bad as ever (2007 now the deadliest year of the war) and the polls now at over 75% of Americans who want this war over, Bush’s plans are not going so swimmingly.

Of course, facts mean nothing to McCain. Ron Paul made McCain look like the bumpy-jawed moron he really is when Paul reminded McCain that he receives the most campaign dollars of any candidate running from active military personnel. I’m sure McCain knows this. Even as he was in Iraq having dinner with the two troops that actually wanted to be IN Iraq, I’m sure he knew he was behind Ron Paul in financial support from the military. And that had to be like a knife through his warmongering, Neo-con heart.

Ron Paul also explained the difference between isolationism and non-interventionism. Isolationism adopts the non-interventionalist policy but also includes not trading with countries. Ron Paul has been very clear that we should still trade and talk with countries but stay the hell out of involving ourselves in wars that have nothing to do with our self-defense.

How ironic that McCain began his tirade by saying, "You know, Congressman, I've been listening to you in these debates say how we should bring our troops home..." He must have heard everything Ron Paul said except for the parts where Paul said we should still trade with people. As Ron Paul was giving McCain a lesson in definitions to vocabulary, you can see McCain grinning. Was the grin saying, "I'm an idiot and maybe dumb America won't notice", or was the grin saying, "Damn, I didn't know there was a difference between isolationism and non-interventionism, so I'll just stand here and grin and just make it look like a disagreement?"

McCain then says, "We let Hitler come into power with that kind of attitude of isolationism". McCain simply forgets or perhaps just doesn't know that Hitler came to power after being appointed Chancellor and became a full-blown dictator after he had his own Reichstag building set on fire. Does McCain also "forget" that World War II began a whole FIVE years after Hitler came to power? World War II began with Germany invading Poland in September of 1939. The United States had STAYED out of all of this (which the Constitution says to do) until we were brought into the war on December 7, 1941 when we were attacked at Pearl Harbor.

Of course, we now know that Roosevelt KNEW about this attack beforehand and that he froze all relations with Japan, thus provoking Japan to attack so we could enter the war and become INTERVENTIONALISTS. We had to stage an attack and have our men die at Pearl Harbor in order to involve ourselves in a war. Where does McCain get that we ALLOWED Hitler to come to power?

It's none of our business what an evil dictator does unless our national security is threatened. The founding fathers understood this and so does Ron Paul. Getting ourselves involved in alliances is what CAUSES the hatred toward us which is EXACTLY what Ron Paul was saying to Giuliani in one of the first couple debates! What part of all this does McCain NOT comprehend?

The AMAZING thing is that McCain just MINUTES before this exchange with Ron Paul said that Iraq was a FAILURE. Yes, in the SAME debate! So, did McCain just forget he said it? Or does he have multiple personalities? How can he say Iraq is a FAILURE and then attack someone for wanting the war OVER and wanting our troops home? This is mind-numbing, heart-stopping hypocrisy! Here's the clip:



Maybe John McCain is just pissed off over reports like this:



This loss of sanity by McCain won him only the silver in Worst Person tonight on Countdown:



As usual, Ron Paul leads all the online polls including the one from CNN. It’s getting a bit tiresome posting them but…….actually, it’s not tiresome at all. Here’s a glance at a few of the polls:


From here on the smears on Ron Paul will only be increased as the establishment goes deeper and deeper into panic mode as they observe things like Ron Paul’s record-setting donation amount of 4.3 million in one day and his upcoming donation drives in December, which are estimated to be record-setters as well.

Here is McCain embarrassing himself on national TV:



McCain Peddles False History, Takes Cheap Shot at Ron Paul
Kurt Nimmo
Prison Planet
November 29, 2007

As if to desperately claw his way back into the limelight, almost forgotten presidential candidate John McCain attacked Ron Paul during the CNN/YouTube debate. It looked more like “an episode of Jerry Springer than a presidential debate,” notes Crooks & Liars. “Senator John McCain was asked a question about taxes and decided to go way off topic and attack Rep. Ron Paul for his stance on Iraq and wanting to bring the troops home.” Instead, it looked like a classic drive-by, a crass attempt to discredit Ron Paul, a break-away candidate with a good chance of taking the Republican nomination.

In his attack, John McCain comes off as a blithering idiot, not that many probably noticed. McCain, citing the long ago discredited official history, declared Ron Paul to be an isolationist and World War II the fault of American isolationism, a claim so out of touch with reality as to be speculative fiction.

“Mussolini enjoyed a great deal of admiration in corporate America from the moment he came to power in a coup that was hailed stateside as ‘a fine young revolution,’” writes the historian Jacques R. Pauwels. “In the 1920s many big American corporations enjoyed sizeable investments in Germany…. By the early 1930s, an élite of about twenty of the largest American corporations had a German connection including Du Pont, Union Carbide, Westinghouse, General Electric, Gilette, Goodrich, Singer, Eastman Kodak, Coca-Cola, IBM, and ITT.”

Finally, many American law firms, investment companies, and banks were deeply involved in America’s investment offensive in Germany, among them the renowned Wall Street law firm Sullivan & Cromwell, and the banks J. P. Morgan and Dillon, Read and Company, as well as the Union Bank of New York, owned by Brown Brothers & Harriman. The Union Bank was intimately linked with the financial and industrial empire of German steel magnate Thyssen, whose financial support enabled Hitler to come to power. This bank was managed by Prescott Bush, grandfather of George W. Bush. Prescott Bush was allegedly also an eager supporter of Hitler, funnelled money to him via Thyssen, and in return made considerable profits by doing business with Nazi Germany; with the profits he launched his son, the later president, in the oil business.

In other words, the United States was not isolationist, as McCain claims, but was in bed with fascism. Prescott Bush’s relationship with the Hitler regime is more than an allegation, it is a fact entombed in the U.S. National Archives, although “little of Bush’s dealings with Germany has received public scrutiny, partly because of the secret status of the documentation involving him,” according to Ben Aris and Duncan Campbell, writing for the Guardian.

The documents “reveal that the firm [Prescott Bush] worked for, Brown Brothers Harriman (BBH), acted as a US base for the German industrialist, Fritz Thyssen, who helped finance Hitler in the 1930s before falling out with him at the end of the decade. The Guardian has seen evidence that shows Bush was the director of the New York-based Union Banking Corporation (UBC) that represented Thyssen’s US interests and he continued to work for the bank after America entered the war.”

As Robert Lederman notes, the Bush family was far more involved in the banking business of the Nazi regime than even the Guardian would have us believe. “As senior managers of Brown Brothers Harriman, [the Bush family] had to have known that their American clients, such as the Rockefellers, were investing heavily in German corporations, including Thyssen’s giant Vereinigte Stahlwerke. As noted historian Christopher Simpson repeatedly documents, it is a matter of public record that Brown Brother’s investments in Nazi Germany took place under the Bush family stewardship…. The enormous sums of money deposited into the Union Bank prior to 1942 is the best evidence that Prescott Bush knowingly served as a money launderer” for both the Nazis and the Rockefellers. “If Union Bank was not the conduit for laundering the Rockefeller’s Nazi investments back to America, then how could the Rockefeller-controlled Chase Manhattan Bank end up owning 31% of the Thyssen group after the war?”

It should be noted that this money laundering was accomplished under the aegis of Bernhard of Lippe-Biesterfeld, the Dutch monarch, who proudly served in the German Reiter SS Corps. Prince Bernhard also worked for IG Farben, the chemical company married to Standard Oil, that is to say the Rockefellers.

Lederman concludes:
The bottom line is harsh: It is bad enough that the Bush family helped raise the money for Thyssen to give Hitler his start in the 1920’s, but giving aid and comfort to the enemy in time of war is treason. The Bush’s bank helped the Thyssens make the Nazi steel that killed allied soldiers. As bad as financing the Nazi war machine may seem, aiding and abetting the Holocaust was worse. Thyssen’s coal mines used Jewish slaves as if they were disposable chemicals. There are six million skeletons in the Thyssen family closet, and a myriad of criminal and historical questions to be answered about the Bush family’s complicity.

In short, McCain should be accusing the head of his party, George W. Bush, or his family, of causing World War II, not the sort of “isolationism” Ron Paul supposedly advocates. But then, of course, John McCain is a neocon, albeit one who will soon drop from sight in the presidential campaign, as increasing numbers of people realize Ron Paul is the only viable candidate, one who is not so much “isolationist” as dedicated to constitutional principles.

It was George Washington who wisely stated that the country must avoid “foreign entanglements” and “foreign alliances, attachments, and intrigues,” as “overgrown military establishments” are, “under any form of government… inauspicious to liberty, and which are to be regarded as particularly hostile to republican liberty.”
John McCain, however, does not represent “republican liberty,” but instead its obverse: neocon military totalitarianism, both abroad and at home.

If elected in 2008, Ron Paul will put an end to all of this destructive nonsense.


Here is a montage of how brilliant, once again, Ron Paul was during the debate

12 comments:

Anonymous said...

with over 10 million listners, coast to coast, the last three days george knoory, ken kiien, steve quayle and pat buchanan have sided with ron paul. all these people cant be wrong.

Anonymous said...

Ron who?

Is this the guy who is pulling in a stunning 4% in the national polls?

Real Truth Online said...

Hmmmmm---wonder why youre posting on an OLD story. This was the LAST debate---MORON. What bad news are you talking about? The bad news of 2 months ago, or TODAY? Yeah, I call 150 more troops that are dead now that wasnt dead two months ago BAD NEWS-----you, on the other hand are doing cartwheels and celebrating their deaths to advance your Neo-con ideologies. If you believe polls in the mainstream media---then youre even dumber than I thought. Yeah, like Ron Paul really is only at 4% when he wins EVERY SINGLE online poll---every poll after a debate----the MAJORITY of the straw polls---has the most contributions from ACTIVE military personnel, has the most hits on YouTube, has the most meet-up groups in the nation---and of course---what the media totally IGNORES---is that he is now #1 in highest contributions TOTAL. Not to mention the SINGLE DAY raising of 4.3 million and the estimated December Boston Tea Party campaign drive of well over $12 million on (I believe) Dec. 16. He also has over 10 million now---just since Nov 5. And of course, the biggest sign that he is a threat is the constant bombardment of smear attempts--by the likes of your Neo-con, America-hating asshole buddies like O' Reilly and Glenn Beck who calls Ron Paul a domestic terrorist---and who can forget McCain's attack at last weeks debate when Paul totally educated him on the meaning of the word "isolationist"----and then of course he tells McCain about himself---NOT McCain--having the highest donations from the military. Say all you want about Democrats--i hate them too. Of course, I keep telling you this, but you continue to mention it like I actually support the Democrats. Its like a knife through your Neo-con heart that I condemn the Democrats TOO, isnt it? Ha ha ha! Military KICKING ASS in Iraq? Oh really---so is that why 2007 is the DEADLIEST year of the war so far? No conspiracy theory there, unless you call the US ARMY conspiratorial---I got that fact off THEIR OWN website! The only thing your posts prove is that you continue to live in denial, ignorance and slavery to the New World Order and its lies. Just because YOU hate liberty doesnt mean EVERYONE hates it asshole. Get your time machine and double back to 1939 Nazi Germany, where you belong you American-hating turd!

Real Truth Online said...

Why cant you post on EVERY thread? Cant refute them??? LOL

Anonymous said...

Larry. onlne polls mean nothing. Ron Who has as much of a chance of winning as Dennis Kucinich

This kook will be gone in a month or so, like Dennis the Menance

McCain is another one who will be done. His stance on illegal immigration destroyed any chance he had of the nomination - along with his opposition to the tax cuts )which have caused the economy to grow)
After years of telling the voters the war is lost, the US military is now making your worst nightmare come true - they are winning

AQ has been all but driven out of Baghdad, the people of Iraq are fed up with the terrorist attacks, and are working with the US to capture pr kill terrorists

The liberal media is pissed at the success, as are the Democrats. They try to ignore, downplay, and spin the good news. One idiot liberal said the deaths are down because the terrorists are running out of people to kill

As far as your usual threads, it is the same old moonbat rants you have posted for years. Everything is a great conspiracy, Foz News is evil, and only Larry and jis followers are our only chance to save the planet

Still think Keith has higher ratings then Bill? Bill is still kicking his ass night after night - as Keith melts down and vents his left wing hate on his little watched show

Now you can do your own Keith Overbite rant, and satrt the attacks

Anonymous said...

if you like mccain just read enormous crime and youll see what a piece of shit he is.

yyy said...

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Man Larry you're not happy unless you're filled with hate are you. Your site is dead. I killed it. You are the same as those you rage against allowing only you're distorted version of a pathetic wasted life. Sad.

Real Truth Online said...

do you just IGNORE facts or can your pea brain just not process them? What part of "2007 is the deadliest year of the war" dont you understand? Who said I cared about Redford's film or about "Redacted"? BILLO is the one who keeps mentioning and bothered by it! Its a film that shows the TRUE story of American troops raping, beating and BURNING alive an Iraqi family----but since youre OK with innocent Iraqis dying, then you obviously support it. FOX News even RAN the trailer of the movie DURING THE O REILLY FACTOR on November 15!!!!! If Billo was so convinced that the film would be a bomb then why doesnt he just IGNORE it? Who said I liked McCain? This just proves you dont read ANYTHING i say, I hate McCain. Hes an asskissing neo-con. Online polls mean nothing? Oh really? More people the EVER get their news from the net, this is why Billo attacks everyone, because his audience is shrinking faster than his loofahs. People are going to NBC and the internet...this is why his main two targets for his anger is NBC and the bloggers!!!! WAKE UP asshole! You wouldnt attack someone who youre BEATING! If I released a CD and it hit #1 and sold 2 million copies and someone else hit #10 and sold 10,000 copies---would I ATTACK them? NO, I wouldnt, because Im already WINNING. Billo attacks people who are BEATING HIM. Troops deaths are NOT down, you can go to the UNITED STATES ARMY website and see that 2007 is the DEADLIEST YEAR IN IRAQ! No conspiracy website----the US ARMY! Who said I like Democrats?? Dems have done NOTHING about this war, they have started bills like HR 1955 that basically makes the movie "Minority Report" a reality in America. I hate BOTH parties. I dont put my alligiance in parties----i put my faith in the CONSTITUTION, so I follow anyone who follows that! You are an America-hating TURD who trusts FIXED News and our media. If I had your brain, i would kill myself (and that was NOT a figure of speech) WAKE UP. Instead of just posting RANTS, why dont you actually ADDRESS things I specifically mention in my posts?? Know why? Because you CANT. You have no choice but to use my site to post rants. If you dont like my site----DONT FREQUENT IT. Youre just like BILLO, you attack people that you "claim" are unpopular or a failure. If you have all the facts bigman, then make your OWN site post YOUR truth. You wont because you cant. Youd have 2 posts a year on it. One for each DAY of the war where no troops died.

Anonymous said...

I guess Larry had no reply to the valid points I made

From the previous post

AQ has been all but driven out of Baghdad, the people of Iraq are fed up with the terrorist attacks, and are working with the US to capture pr kill terrorists

The liberal media is pissed at the success, as are the Democrats. They try to ignore, downplay, and spin the good news. One idiot liberal said the deaths are down because the terrorists are running out of people to kill

As far as your usual threads, it is the same old moonbat rants you have posted for years. Everything is a great conspiracy, Foz News is evil, and only Larry and jis followers are our only chance to save the planet

Still think Keith has higher ratings then Bill? Bill is still kicking his ass night after night - as Keith melts down and vents his left wing hate on his little watched show

Real Truth Online said...

Success??? Whats your reply to 2007 being the DEADLIEST YEAR OF THE WAR??? Ive said that like 4 times so far and you keep IGNORING IT! At least Keith talks about what is really going on in Washington! BILLO is too busy interviewing ALF and peddling his fucking STUPID merchandise! Do you have a "NO SPIN" hat??? I bet you do--and youre the ONLY dickhead in America who actually WEARS it!! LOL

Real Truth Online said...

I cant wait for Keith's BRILLIANT special comment tonight on Bush ADMITTING he's a big fucking LIAR about the NIE report!!!! CANT WAIT!! This is EXACTLY why Keith wins with the 25-54 demographic! Billo still leads with the over 75 crowd. They should advertise adult diapers during his show! Oh thats right---they're too busy running trailers for REDACTED!!

Real Truth Online said...

You STILL never address the videoclip I showed of BILLO advertising REDACTED during his show--------gonna ddress that or will I be ignored like I am about EVERYTHING I mention? yep, youll ignore it----because you have no explanation why BILLO runs trailers during his show of movies he says are VILE and disgusting! Ill give you the reason-------------MONEY!!!!!!!!!!