Sunday, September 16, 2007

Bill Maher: 9/11 Truthers need professional help, not publicity

Maher takes a jab at the 9/11 Truth movement in a recent "New Rules" segment

Mike Aivaz
Raw Story
September 16, 2007

"Crazy people who still think the government brought down the Twin Towers in a controlled explosion have to stop pretending that I'm the one who's being naive," says Maher.

“How big a lunatic do you have to be to watch two giant airliners packed with jet fuel slam into buildings on live TV, igniting a massive inferno that burned for two hours, and then think 'Well, if you believe that was the cause...'
Stop asking me to raise this ridiculous topic on the show and start asking your doctor if Paxil is right for you."

by Larry Simons

This should be proof to all the morons out there who view my site that think all I cover are stories that I “agree” with or that I can “handle”. I’ve made it no secret that I like Bill Maher and even before this segment on Friday’s “Real Time with Bill Maher”, I knew he didn’t believe in the cover-up of 9-11. I’ve said this many times on my site. I will simply point out the inaccuracies with Bill Maher’s statements.

We never said the “government” brought down the towers. That makes it appear as if we think it was senators, congressmen or Supreme Court judges that pulled the lever on 9-11. We have claimed that it is a very small criminal element of the government, called “black ops” where “government” people usually deny doing it and only very few people really know about it.

Bill, we don’t say your na├»ve, you’re just wrong on this one. Maher doesn’t have to believe that 9-11 was carried out by ‘black-ops’, but to blindly deny that there has even been a cover-up about it? My God, to deny this, you simply fall into the “I never investigate this” category.

Notice Bill’s ad hominem vocabulary. Usually when you don’t really have any hard facts to support your own view, you will say words like “crazy” and “lunatic” to automatically get your listeners to agree that the people you attack are a bunch of nuts without offering any evidence that they are.

Here’s where Bill lies twice in one sentence. He says the two airplanes ignited a “massive inferno” that “burned for 2 hours”. Wrong on both counts Bill. There was no massive infernos in either tower. In fact, there are 4 major indications that this was not the case. 1) Simply observing that the fires were not “massive”. 2) The fact that the smoke coming from the towers was very black. Hotter fires leave off a grayish smoke. 3) The audio tapes of the firefighters inside the building saying that the fires (near the impact hole) were able to be “knocked down with two lines” and that the fires were “isolated”. 4) The fact that there is footage and pictures of people standing right inside the impact holes, not burning and no skin melting off their body. Maher simply didn’t do any homework.

Also, neither tower burned for two hours Bill. One burned for 56 minutes, and the other for 102 minutes. 102 minutes is close to 2, but not quite 2. So, we see even on this elementary issue Bill is not truthful on that! If he says 56 minutes is the same as 2 hours, why would we believe him on anything else?

To believe in the government's story of 9-11 means you have to believe in miracles...not just unlikely incidents, I'm talking about real Jesus-like miracles collapsing buildings (even when no planes hit them), fire vaporizing airplanes (but NOT human flesh), the existence of molten steel created from no incendiary devices, planes being able to fit inside small holes and of course NORAD not only failing to stop one plane (which is impossible by itself) but 4. Yes, 9-11 was a day of miracles for Bill Maher. Wait? I thought Bill Maher didn't believe in Jesus or miracles? Hmmmmm. Who needs Paxil, Bill?

Here’s proof that buildings with REAL massive fires don’t collapse

Windsor Tower in Madrid, Spain in 2005; burned 24 straight hours, no collapse

Maher also doesn’t mention other pesky facts like: Both towers fell in near free fall time, or that no buildings in history ever collapsed (in a total collapse) due to fire, the testimony of many people inside the buildings, including firefighters and policemen that bombs and explosions were seen and heard (even before the planes hit), the concrete was totally pulverized into dust or the pools of molten metal found in the debris weeks after the collapses. When you leave out all these facts and throw in the words “crazy” and “lunatic” then yes, I guess you can persuade your audience to see things your way!

Here’s videos of more “crazy” people and “lunatics”:

Here’s Kurt Nimmo’s article on the story:

Bill Maher: Corporate “Comic” and Shill for the Official 9/11 Fable

Kurt Nimmo
September 16, 2007

I’m not sure why I bothered to watch the video posted on Raw Story, as the outcome was wholly predictable. “Crazy people who still think the government brought down the Twin Towers in a controlled explosion have to stop pretending that I’m the one who’s being naive,” joked Bill Maher on HBO, the “vertically integrated” supposed “entertainment” corporation owned by Time Warner. “How big a lunatic do you have to be to watch two giant airliners packed with jet fuel slam into buildings on live TV, igniting a massive inferno that burned for two hours, and then think ‘Well, if you believe that was the cause…’ Stop asking me to raise this ridiculous topic on the show and start asking your doctor if Paxil is right for you.”

Of course, you likely need Paxil if you think kerosene fires are capable of melting steel and, more to the point, if you believe government will not kill its own citizens. History is replete with examples of the latter, even if you consider Operation Northwoods dubious. But then, millions of brainwashed Americans, watching not only HBO but Fox News and CNN, believe the government is here to help us, protect us from fantastical cave-dwelling terrorists, provide for us in old age, take care of us when we are sick, and shelter us during natural disasters, the examples of Katrina and confiscatory taxation not withstanding. It is a hard nut to crack, this deeply entrenched brainwashing, and those of us who understand the truth—government is here to rob us blind and, when it serves, feed us into wars designed to enrich and empower a small and psychotic elite. Evidence is all around, out in the open for all to see, but then most people, citizens deluded, are too busy chuckling it up over the sophistry, passing as comedy, of Bill Maher.

Bill learned his lesson when, embracing the official 9/11 fairy tale, he agreed with ?conservative? (read: neocon) political commentator Dinesh D’Souza on his ABC show Politically Incorrect that the 9/11 terrorists were not cowards and felt compelled to add: “We have been the cowards lobbing cruise missiles from 2,000 miles away. That’s cowardly. Staying in the airplane when it hits the building, say what you want about it, it’s not cowardly. Stupid maybe, but not cowardly.” It should be considered suspicious that Maher would have a neocon such as Dinesh D’Souza—a member of the Hoover Institution, a criminal organization cranking out the likes of Condi Rice—on his show. But then most Americans have no idea who Dinesh D’Souza is or that he is a proponent of American exceptionalism, that is the right to kill people anywhere in the world, so long as it serves America, or rather the elite in America. For his ill-advised comment, Maher was bounced from ABC after advertisers ran covering their heads and Ari Fleischer, then White House press secretary, responded to a reporter’s question about Maher’s comments by saying: “…they’re reminders to all Americans that they need to watch what they say, watch what they do,” in other words, even Maher’s relatively moderate comment is unacceptable in America after “everything changed,” that is to say after cave-dwelling Muslims violated the laws of physics and made Norad stand down.

Now Bill’s a good boy and if HBO, owned by Time Warner—its death merchant division, Time Warner Telecom, in bed with the Defense Department—demands he characterize people interested in understanding what really happened on September 11, 2001, as mental patients in need of SSRI medication, of course he is obliged to comply, no matter if he believes they are nut cases or not (in likewise fashion, whores on occasion are obliged to act as if they enjoy sex with their customers).

Considering the distressing state of television and “comedy” as presented on HBO and elsewhere, it is no wonder more people are not on Paxil. But then I suppose, for those of us easily brainwashed from Sesame Street onward, right through school and later provided with more or less mandatory daily doses of slick propaganda, acting as a passive-aggressive equivalent to Orwell’s two minute hate sessions, we are comfortable with our collective mental illness delivered by psychopaths at the top and handsomely rewarded jobholders such as Bill Maher.


Anonymous said...

Ummm, was the Winsor tower hit by a commercial airliner?

Real Truth Online said...

Oh brother, I knew Id get some dumbass to say that. First of all, the towers were designed to take impacts of jet airliners, in fact MULTIPLE jets hitting them according to Frank DeMartini. YouTube his name, youll see the clip where he says this. Second, the fires in the tower didnt reach very high temperatures. Third, was WTC 7 hit by a plane? And yet that collapsed too! Wanna explain that one? Of course you wont!

Anonymous said...

1) Designs can and often do fail under extreme circumstances, and I think anyone with a brain would call these extreme circumstances.

2) WTC Building &'s structural integrity was damaged which is the reason it eventuually fell.

Are you suggesting it was controlled demolition?

Real Truth Online said...

If the DESIGNER said it could take MULTIPLE impacts from jets, then im quite SURE he had "extreme" circumstances in mind as well, in fact, since he said MULTIPLE jets, his scenario was worse than what happened. And, no, Im not suggesting it was demolition, Im telling you flat out it WAS controlled demolition----how else do you explain the molten steel in the rubble that lasted WEEKS after the attack and WTC workers had to continaully change their boots!

Real Truth Online said...

oh, and uh dumbass, didnt you even bother watching the videos above? Are they nuts too???

Anonymous said...

I personally know the owner of the lease on the towers, which was not Silverstein, he was just a front man. And in no way would they ever take down their towers. Watch the videos talking to architects, who designed the towers, its unique design made it collapse.

Anonymous said...

my one question is if they use controlled explosions how could they have been on the exact same floors that both of the planes crashed into. Flying a jet a few hundred feet above roof tops is hard enough let alone aiming for 1 out of 100 rows of windows.

Try and explain that one

Real Truth Online said...

good question: see? I like questions like these---questions that stir intellectual debate. When all I get is "kook", "nut"---"take meds"---this is a refreshing switch. My only answer to this is one of two things: Either the planes were remote controlled (which is not a far-out suggestion, since FOX News reporter Mark Birnbach (spelling?) said ON 9-11 that he saw the 2nd plane hit and he specifically saw NO windows on the plane and the plane had a blue logo on the side. Another explanation is that the entire building was rigged so that no matter where the plane hit, the people blowing it up could explode it from any floor. The bottom line is: these buildings WERE brought down by explosives----there is absolutely NO OTHER EXPLANATION why the buildings fell in near free-fall time, had molten steel in the rubble WEEKS after the collapses and why everything was pulverized.

Anonymous said...

This seems to be all based on the assumption that the architects would be telling the truth about the strength of their buildings, after the fact. I my building had just collapsed and caused the deaths of thousands there is no way that i would admit that it was my fault for not designing it strong enough. There have been no tests done to show that the towers could withstand plane crashes.

Real Truth Online said...

what "architect" said anything AFTER the fact? Frank DeMartini said it BEFORE 9-11 and the real architect, some Japanese guy, I forget his name, died in 1986. Name one person who is considered an "architect" who said anything AFTER the collpases?

Real Truth Online said...

Minoru Yamasaki is his name, the guy who died in 1986