Wednesday, March 21, 2007

It's STILL the oil: Secret Condi Meeting on Oil Before Invasion

by Greg Palast
March 18, 2007

Four years ago this week, the tanks rolled for what President Bush originally called, "Operation Iraqi Liberation" -- O.I.L. I kid you not.

And it was four years ago that, from the White House, George Bush, declaring war, said, "I want to talk to the Iraqi people." That Dick Cheney didn't tell Bush that Iraqis speak Arabic . well, never mind. I expected the President to say something like, "Our troops are coming to liberate you, so don't shoot them." Instead, Mr. Bush told, the Iraqis, "Do not destroy oil wells."

Nevertheless, the Bush Administration said the war had nothing to do with Iraq's oil. Indeed, in 2002, the State Department stated, and its official newsletter, the Washington Post, repeated, that State's Iraq study group, "does not have oil on its list of issues." But now, we've learned that, despite protestations to the contrary, Condoleezza Rice held a secret meeting with the former Secretary-General of OPEC, Fadhil Chalabi, an Iraqi, and offered Chalabi the job of Oil Minister for Iraq. (It is well established that the President of the United States may appoint the cabinet ministers of another nation if that appointment is confirmed by the 101st Airborne.)

In all the chest-beating about how the war did badly, no one seems to remember how the war did very, very well -- for Big Oil. The war has kept Iraq's oil production to 2.1 million barrels a day from pre-war, pre-embargo production of over 4 million barrels. In the oil game, that's a lot to lose. In fact, the loss of Iraq's 2 million barrels a day is equal to the entire planet's reserve production capacity.

In other words, the war has caused a hell of a supply squeeze -- and Big Oil just loves it. Oil today is $57 a barrel versus the $18 a barrel price under Bill "Love-Not-War" Clinton. Since the launch of Operation Iraqi Liberation, Halliburton stock has tripled to $64 a share -- not, as some believe, because of those Iraq reconstruction contracts -- peanuts for Halliburton. Cheney's former company's main business is "oil services." And, as one oilman complained to me, Cheney's former company has captured a big hunk of the rise in oil prices by jacking up the charges for Halliburton drilling and piping equipment.

But before we shed tears for Big Oil's having to hand Halliburton its slice, let me note that the value of the reserves of the five biggest oil companies more than doubled during the war to $2.36 trillion. And that was the plan: putting a new floor under the price of oil. I've have that in writing. In 2005, after a two-year battle with the State and Defense Departments, they released to my team at BBC Newsnight the "Options for a Sustainable Iraqi Oil Industry." Now, you might think our government shouldn't be writing a plan for another nation's oil. Well, our government didn't write it, despite the State Department seal on the cover. In fact, we discovered that the 323-page plan was drafted in Houston by oil industry executives and consultants.

The suspicion is that Bush went to war to get Iraq's oil. That's not true. The document, and secret recordings of those in on the scheme, made it clear that the Administration wanted to make certain America did not get the oil. In other words, keep the lid on Iraq's oil production -- and thereby keep the price of oil high. Of course, the language was far more subtle than, "Let's cut Iraq's oil production and jack up prices." Rather, the report uses industry jargon and euphemisms which require Iraq to remain an obedient member of the OPEC cartel and stick to the oil-production limits -- "quotas" -- which keep up oil prices.

The Houston plan, enforced by an army of occupation, would, "enhance [Iraq's] relationship with OPEC," the oil cartel. And that's undoubtedly why Condoleezza Rice asked Fadhil Chalabi to take charge of Iraq's Oil Ministry. As former chief operating officer of OPEC, the oil cartel, Fadhil was a Big Oil favorite, certain to ensure that Iraq would never again allow the world to slip back to the Clinton era of low prices and low profits. (In investigating for BBC, I was told by the former chief of the CIA's oil unit that he'd met with Fadhil regarding oil at Bush's request. Fadhil recently complained to the BBC. He denied the meeting with the Bush emissary in London because, he noted, he was secretly meeting that week in Washington with Condi!)

Fadhil, by the way, turned down Condi's offer to run Iraq's Oil Ministry. Ultimately, Iraq's Oil Ministry was given to Fadhil's fellow tribesman, Ahmad Chalabi, a convicted bank swindler and neo-con idol. But whichever Chalabi is nominal head of Iraq's oil industry in Baghdad, the orders come from Houston. Indeed, the oil law adopted by Iraq's shaky government this month is virtually a photocopy of the "Options" plan first conceived in Texas long before Iraq was "liberated."

In other words, the war has gone exactly to plan -- the Houston plan. So forget the naïve cloth-rending about a conflict gone haywire. Exxon-Mobil reported a record $10 billion profit last quarter, the largest of any corporation in history. Mission Accomplished.

Greg Palast is a New York Times-bestselling author and a journalist for the British Broadcasting Corporation as well as the British newspaper The Observer.

thanks to my friend Eugene for this story

37 comments:

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Real Truth Online said...

comments above deleted because it was the SAME post Jas posted below on the "10 smoking guns" thread. It was a 10 foot long post and he posted it twice. If this continues, I will have to put moderation on again because of assholes like this that just re-post the EXACT SAME post over and over just to "get my goat" and to make me say I will moderate comments. I know that what he's doing, and he thinks when I decide to moderate posts it's because he's "won". He hasnt won, because I know thats why he does it. Hes a fucking CHICKEN and purposely doesnt address anything on the stories I post, even when he PROMISES he will debate when facts are posted. Hes a fucking CHICKEM COWARD and LIAR. So, people, if I go back to moderating again, keep in mind, it is ONLY to stop people from making a mockery of the blog. All Jas does is post the same 10 foot long post over and over--and if I didnt moderate comments. You would have to scroll down through a mile of shit just to read the recent posts. So, keep in mind, if I moderate, your posts will STILL be included no matter if you agree or disagree with my posts. I am only doing it to stop people like Jas----who offer no intellectual debate and who re-posts over and over just to be the childish BABY he is. I bet the next posts by him will be the SAME long posts and NOTHING new in them, because he's a WEAK, IGNORANT, MINDLESS ASSHOLE! Yeah, Jas, I am namecalling, i admit it---i only name call when theres EVIDENCE that you ARE these things. You name call and call ME a nut, but theres no evidence of that because you REFUSE to debate me!!!! You call me a NUT then FAIL MISERABLY to prove it!!

Real Truth Online said...

proof he posts the SAME posts----look at the TIME of the above comments I deleted. BOTH posted at 11:54am!!!! Jas is SIZZED...BUSTED!!!

Real Truth Online said...

Look at what time he posted the post below in the "10 smoking guns" thread------11:55am!!!! a minute later!!

Real Truth Online said...

LADIES AND GENTLEMEN----Heres Jas's greatest hits! His 10 BEST smash hits!!! His past comments that have officially came back to bite him in the ass in light of my 10 Smoking Guns story: Ready?? Here we go--on with the countdown! (in no particular order)

10. Yawn. Is that the best you've got Larry?
Larry what does the Mineta interview prove. Answer: Nothing.
March 16, 2007 11:56:00 PM EDT

9. Sure would like to see your list of all those involved in the 9/11 conspiracy who you've implicated on your joke of a website Larry.
Also one fact would be nice.
Waiting on nothing I'm sure.
March 17, 2007 12:23:00 AM EDT

8. I've also taken several Master's level courses on related subjects which is more than you can say with your high school education and your complete and total reliance on unreliable and discreditable websites for your ridiculous 9/11 theories posted by crackpots with no education like yourself.
March 16, 2007 1:54:00 PM EDT

7. I'm still waiting on a "fact" Larry.
And if Douglas Herman calls American's cowards and you agree with him as you say then you must think Americans are cowards. that's plain english scooter.
March 16, 2007 11:03:00 PM EDT

6. Larry, I guess you haven't been reading my posts, just deleting them because I shred your 9/11 theory to bits
March 13, 2007 6:07:00 PM EDT

5. I still have yet to see any real evidence ever posted on this entire site. You have no proof whatsoever. NONE!
What exactly do you need me to refute Larry? If there was a "mountain" of evidence surely you should hire a lawyer and sue all the people who are involved in this massive conspiracy of yours
March 16, 2007 1:08:00 PM EDT
(NO REAL EVIDENCE? I JUST POSTED A MILE OF IT-----WHICH I MIGHT ADD YOU IGNORED! LOL)

4. God this is way too easy making you look a fool.
March 16, 2007 1:32:00 PM EDT
(THE ONLY THING MAKING YOU LOOK FOOLISH IS YOUR SAME TIRESOME MILE LONG POST, MR. MASTERS DEGREE!!)

THIS ONE'S MY FAVORITE:
3. Give me one fact Larry, your best one and I'll glady refute it. Or better yet give me your top 10 "Facts" and I'll refute them all one by one.
I'm waiting now Larry. Your top 10 facts and your list of those you've implicated who are involved on your site.
March 16, 2007 5:55:00 PM EDT
(GLADY REFUTE THEM HUH????? BUT YET IT TOOK YOU 3 DAYS TO POST SOMETHING, AND WHEN YOU DID, IT WAS THE SAME OLD TIRESOME POST!! LOL)

2. Hilarious that you have to work on coming up with 10 facts for me and then you attempt to give me one fact and you can't even do that! YOU CAN'T GIVE ONE FACT LARRY! I'M TRULY LAUGHING MY ASS OFF NOW! You're speculating about things you don't know and making baseless accusations as usual scooter. You and all the other "truthers." Everything with you clods is a case of one plus one equals three. It's a piling up of improbabilities.
Geesh is that the best you've got? Pathetic. Speculation isn't a fact scooter. Still waiting on one fact.
March 16, 2007 11:38:00 PM EDT
(NOPE, NOT THE BEST I GOT---I JUST GAVE YOU THE BEST, AND OF COUSE, YOU IGNORED THEM)

1. Still waiting on one fact.
March 17, 2007 12:05:00 AM EDT

Anyone reading this who supports the official version of 9/11----i tell ya, I wouldnt want this asshole Jas on my team!! He's making your side look ...well....FOOLISH, because ....well....it IS!

eugene said...

The Jas's are the perfect Bush supporters. No substance, and easy to see through.

The first 2 paragraphs in Greg Paasts article say it all!!!!
It was the oil all along.

Jas said...

You might as well put it on comment moderation because for the next year I will come to this site every day and post this same exact post if it isn't in the top article's comment section. And I run my business through my home so I'm on the internet every day, so lucky you!

Also I no longer bother to read your posts at all much less your articles after I tore you're Mineta interview theory to bits SO BE AWARE YOUR INSULTS WILL NEVER REACH ME. My wife pities you and says I'm being mean picking on someone with an "obvious mental defect." LMAO! Also be aware I've created a little montage of our discussions and I'm emailing and posting them monthly on all the truther websites I can find. Hope you enjoy the exposure :)

Go ahead Larry keep deleting. I going to run you from your own site just like others did before me. You're so ashamed to see our posts because they embarass you in front of your 2 online buddies. You just can't handle it, you're WEAK in every sense of the word. Just like everyone else who's ever come here and debated you all you ever do is resort to insults and the delete button. And it was sooooo easy.

So go back to moderating and blog purgatory you hypocritical loser. I and everyone who's ever debated you here has kicked your pathetic excuse for a 38 year old's arse with astounding ease. Your site will forever be compromised if you delete my posts as you will have to put it on "comment moderation" and only then your 2 friends will be the only ones who bother to post (ignorant Gene who thinks I'm a Bush supporter... lmao, and the other person who comments: You as "anonymous" or some other made up name).

Ladies and gentlemen, if you come to this site know that the site's creator will not stand for debate on his fantasyland 9/11 issues and will delete posts that differ from his views (note the dozens of "deleted by site administrator" comments stemming back to 2006 in which others have called Larry on his bullshit). He calls himself a patriot and blames Fox news for showing only one side of the argument. Who's the real hypocrite Larry? The only reason he’s opened posts again is because I contacted some of the “truther” websites he linked on his page and informed them of how he hurts their cause, ridiculous as it is.

I'll be shocked if this post lasts more than an hour.

The following are quotes made by this site’s creator when someone disputes his lies regarding 9/11. Keep in mind I have been a staunch critic of nearly everything this current Bush administration has done. I am an avid liberal, secular progressive who does not believe in any religion whatsoever and hasn't voted Republican in my life. I also believe Bush should be impeached for the Iraq war deception among other things. My friends would tell you if anyone would like for the 9/11 conspiracy to be true it would be someone like me but I’m way too intelligent to believe in anything that can’t be proven.

As quoted from this site's creator Larry Simons when refuting 9/11 claims:

"You're a total SHITHEAD, and if I was you, Id kill myself."

"You’re a fucking CHICKEN"

"SHOW ME SOME OF YOUR OVERWHELING EVIDENCE ASSHOLE!"

"You don’t know SHIT!"

Here’s only one of my responses:
For the record I believe my own eyes and reason along with most of the 9/11 Commission Report on 9/11, the Popular Mechanics report on debunking 9/11 myths, staunch anti-government leftist and MIT Professor and father of modern linguistics Noam Chomsky's scholarly articles along with reporting from Keith Olbermann, Arianna Huffington, Bill Maher, Brian Williams, Dan Rather, the videotape of bin Laden explaining how he helped mastermind the 9/11 attacks, the thousands of eyewitness accounts on the matter and the hundreds of reputable scholarly publications and FACTUAL websites that report the truth about 9/11.

There's no use arguing with you crackpots. I've seen the conspiracy crap all over the internet. These "theorists" have a so-called answer for everything when in fact all they have are questions.

I saw the planes hit the towers. I saw the towers eventually fall starting where each plane hit those towers yet there's websites telling me no planes hit the buildings... it was all done with blue screens just like in Terminator 2, or it was done via controlled demolition from a black-ops team from our own government. I'm not stupid enough to believe that and I'm joined by your heroes, Olbermann, Huffington and Carlin.

If you wanted to I'm sure you could give me 100 websites that tell me Bigfoot felled those towers. My granddaddy used to tell me... "Son, there's no use arguing with a fool."

YOU HAVE NO PROOF LARRY. NONE. JUST A BUNCH OF POSTS FROM HUNDREDS OF INTERNET CRACKPOT WEBSITES. BOTTOM LINE.

And I’m sorry Larry but you continue to show your lack of intelligence with eloquent quotes like these...
"We’re in BIG trouble if this guy is our next President. He truly is a piece of shit." - Larry Simons

"Of course, as a reflection of how stupid America is, I get the occasional idiotic comment like, "Look what Ray Nagin did in New Orleans!" - Larry Simons on how stupid America is. You must really love your country Larry. You call the American people "stupid cowards" and then make baseless claims our own government (corrupt as it may be) is directly responsible for killing 3000+ of their own on 9/11.
Another Larry quote: "I’m tired of talking to stupid, ignorant, mind-controlled, unpatriotic American citizens like you."

Larry I've read more books from respected scholars and ex-government officials criticizing American foreign policy than you ever will. I've also taken several Master's level courses on related subjects which is more than you can say with your high school education and your complete and total reliance on unreliable and discreditable websites for your ridiculous 9/11 theories posted by crackpots with no education like yourself.

You hate America and its people, fine, but don't accuse me of being a "stupid, ignorant mind-controlled American" when you yourself exhibit more ignorance, stupidity and hate for your fellow countrymen in nearly every post you display.

If anyone is being "mind-controlled" it is you from all those other "truthers" out there."
You're speculating about things you don't know and making baseless accusations as usual scooter. You and all the other "truthers." Everything with you clods is a case of one plus one equals three. It's a piling up of improbabilities.

Speculation isn't a fact scooter and questions aren’t either.

The burden of proof isn't on me. It’s on you. If you truly had facts the entire world would know. Its similar to science vs. religion debate... the burden of proof is not on non-believers. Fact is the National Academy of Scientists believes your 9/11 theories about as much as they believe the Bible or Koran is the word of God, and reasonable men know this.

If there was a "mountain" of evidence surely you should hire a lawyer and sue all the people who are involved in this massive conspiracy of yours... Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, the entire BBC, ABC, NBC, FOX, owner of building 7, the editors of Popular Mechanics, the CIA, FBI, NSA. Wow that's a lot of people to keep quiet on such a major conspiracy and that’s just the tip of the iceberg, think of the countless others involved we don't even know about!

If you had any proof, people like your heroes Olbermann and Huffington would be reporting it or are they complicit too? Can I put them on the list of co-conspirators?

So you and your high school education are more intelligent than Noam Chomsky eh? I've read practically everything he's ever written and he'd be reporting the "facts" if there were any and he doesn't resort to telling people who disagree with him to kill themselves or write moronic sentences like "It's another to swallow jizz for a living for all the world to see."

The answer is no, your heroes will not report your baseless claims because they would lose all credibility. They don't report your false claims just like they don't report when someone claims the Loch Ness Monster is real even though I can give you 1,000 websites that give the same type of "proof" you're spewing. Can you prove the Loch Ness Monster doesn't exist Larry? I didn't think so.

So go ahead Larry ask me a specific question if you can pose an intelligent one without resorting to insults and homophobic slurs. I'm waiting. Oh and when you do so could you also prove to me that Bigfoot and the Loch Ness monster don't exist because I have proof that clearly shows otherwise.

I've identified myself repeatedly as a proud liberal who despises what the Bush administration has done over the last 6 years. I also have expressed myself as an unabashed O'Reilly, Coulter, and Fox News critic. That said you could probably assume I don't think being gay is a disease and firmly believe gays should be able to marry, adopt or have their own children and openly serve in the military. They should have every right as the rest of us. And to insinuate that I am gay in such a judgmental way screams of homophobia or plain hatred for homosexuals. Why would you attempt to make such an insult and laugh about it unless you felt otherwise?

You are quoted as saying, "Live and let be gay, I always say...(not really)" What Larry? Are you one of those intolerant hypocritical types like O'Reilly and Coulter who believes God cares what people do while naked? And the line, "It's another to swallow jizz for a living for all the world to see." won't be winning you any Pulitzers let me tell you.

You wouldn't last five minutes in a college level debate class. YOU'RE DELETING MY POSTS BECAUSE ANYONE WHO COMES TO THIS SITE WILL SEE WHAT I'VE SAID TEARS YOUR WHOLE THEORY TO SHREDS!!!

Don't stoop to Larry's level (he is "real truth") and tell your debate opponent to commit suicide. Larry's just showing his true colors. If he took all the garbage about 9/11 off this site it would actually be worth visiting but my guess is he's invested too much money in 9/11 "truthers" t-shirts to turn back now. Plus he's a lot like George Bush and Bill O'Reilly in that he will never ever admit he is wrong despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary.

I'm sure you're narcissistic enough to think you're just like King, Murrow, Paine and Lincoln but every one of them would roll over in their graves regarding the crap you're spewing about 9/11. And its one thing to be embarrassed by your government and to question your government. It’s entirely something else with what you're doing with baseless accusations re: 9/11. You come across as hating this country whether you like it or not.

I'll say it again, you've yet to give any proof whatsoever and this is coming from someone who despises what those in charge have done to our country over the last 6 years.

This site has no credibility because of your foolish 9/11 conspiracy bunk. If you took all the 9/11 crap down and focused on the Iraq war, Katrina/FEMA, record deficits, tax cuts for the rich, Scooter Libby, 40 million without healthcare, Abu Gharib, warentless wiretaps, Abramoff, Cunningham, Delay, Foley, Ney, Enron/Halliburton, gas prices, No Child Left Behind, Fox News and the startling hypocrisy of a so-called "Christian" president people might actually take you seriously. But until you throw away all your 9/11 "truthers" t-shirts saying how the BBC, Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, the owner of building 7, popular mechanics ect ect ect were all involved in this massive conspiracy you have absolutely no credibility.

You have no proof Larry. None. Just cutting and pasting crap from websites no one in their right mind would believe.

Without me you'd have no one to insult but if you are going to go all Bill O'Reilly on me and delete my posts because they hit too close to home go ahead, I'd expect nothing less from you.

Fire away Bill O Jr. We can't have anyone disagreeing with you're posts now can we? And you say you strive for truth. My arse.

And by the way you've done more name calling and insulting than I have by miles and miles. You're just as bad as the hypocrites you try to bring down.
Exactly you're so much smarter than all of them put together... there sitting at home in podunk hicksville Hagersbush looking up crackpot websites at 3am instead of actually going to college or reading scholarly publications on these matters. "OH MY GOD THE BBC TIMESTAMP PROVES IT ALL! PEOPLE WHO DON'T BELIEVE BUSH IS BEHIND 9/11 ARE COWARDS AND COMPLACENT! ACTOR CHARLIE SHEEN SAID THERE'S A COVERUP! POPULAR MECHANICS, THE BBC, THE OWNER OF BUILDING 7, EVERY MEMBER OF THE BUSH ADMINISTRATION, THE CIA, FBI, NSA AND PENTAGON OFFICIALS ARE ALL PART OF THIS MASSIVE CONSPIRACY!" DON'T TRUST THE N.Y. TIMES, ABC, CNN, FOX NEWS, MSNBC, OR YOUR OWN SENSE OF REASON AND INTELLIGENCE EVERONE... TRUST LARRY AND THE TRUTH SHALL SET YOU FREE!!!

Dude seriously, I saw your picture... you're young and that gives you somewhat of a pass but that still doesn't mean you're not in need of some serious medication. I'm one of the folks that think Bush and the lot should be tried for war crimes for the Iraq fiasco but every bit of "evidence" you provide on 9/11 is looney toons. The people you quote and provide stories from are nutbags and have absolutely no credibility. I bet you've never even heard of Chomsky who would never let something like this B.S. conspiracy go unstudied.

Yes, let us all bow to Larry Simons who sits at home at night in his mommy's basement cutting and pasting junk he finds on the internet and thinks he's smarter than the thousands of scientists, scholars, journalists and eyeball witnesses who know more about 9/11 than he could ever hope. Thanks for providing the truth for us “uneducated cowards and complacent morons” Larry. And to think how comfortable we all were not questioning authority until you came along and opened our eyes to how government is corrupt. God Bless you Larry Simons and God Bless America!

Go ahead Larry and now pull a Bill O'Reilly and tell me how I made your argument stronger. No spin from you eh? Your argument transcends anything any of us morons could imagine right?

You keep making my argument for me Larry. All you can do is insult others and not debate the facts like an adult. Don't you realize that alone makes me right?

Larry you do more to damage your cause than you'll ever know. Its people like you who make it easier for the "right wing" to garnish support for their pathetic causes.



HERE’S SOME EXAMPLES OF PREVIOUS POSTS BY PEOPLE WHO HAVE COME TO THIS SITE AND DISAGREED WITH LARRY SIMONS (Check out the posts from 2006 and note the hypocrisy from this site’s creator and his lack of debate skills as he can only respond with threats, insults and deleting others posts when they completely refute his baseless 9/11 claims):

“Unlike you, I do not hate you Larry. I really feel sorry for you. You go through life, angry, full of hate, rage, screaming for attention, trying to get people to believe your crackpot conspiracy theories.”

”I do pity you. I cannot think what your life is like as you wake up every morning thinking what a terrible country you live in, never seeing anything good in life, and as you sit in front of your computer and spewing your hate toward anyone who disagrees with you.”

”The last thing you want to have the light of truth shown on you.”

”At the same time I find you somewhat funny. To read your posts as you meltdown and launch into a profanity filled posts is good for a good chuckle.”
“One cannot reason with someone engulfed in hate as you are.”

”Not one major newspaper, or TV news show will give you the time of day. Or are they part of the grand conspiracy as well??? (Twilight Zone music is now playing in Larry's head)”

“I may be at fault for feeding your rage. Like a spoiled child who craves attention, when I pay attention to you, you smile and start pounding the keyboard once again. I see I am the only one posting on your piece of shit website, so I am at fault. I hope your shrink does not hold it against me.”

“All I can say is I've answered your questions, and you've answered none of mine, looks like to me your doing the ignoring, but why let facts get in the way?
You've never addressed anything I’ve asked, why?
No one threatens as a bluff, they use it when they have no other choice, you know, like when you have no answers.”

“You couldn't beat me with facts, so you used threats, your only weapon. I beat you with facts you couldn't dispute, cause if you could have you would have answered my questions, so you used threats, not to beat me, but to quiet me, your pathetic, you complain about not debating, then you don't debate, you run and hide, delete posts, and threaten.”

”The only responses we get from you is cursing, name calling, and threats, that’s your answers to everything? That’s the answer you give when questioned by someone? Looks like you don't have much "truth" in your arsenal, but you do have a ton of crap.”

”This is my last post to you, since there's no point because you refuse to answer anything I ask, but we both know who won, the one who answered questions won, which would be me. The one who refused to answer anything lost, which would be you. c/ya!”

“You do the exact same you bitch about; once again you accuse others of what you do. You never answered any on my questions, you dodged, and weaved, and your answers were cursing, and name calling, lol.”

“Is that what the truthers do when they have no point, name call? Cause that’s all you do when you have no answer, you ignore, and name call, does your eyes burn when you read the truth? Be careful you'll go blind reading the truth, your more of a nazi than anyone, you spew more propaganda than Hitler ever did.”
Anyone see a recurring theme here?


My final comment:

Larry I do so pity you as well as those who you say agree with you. Funny how few of your fellow “truthers” out there actually come to your site or to your defense. Sad, but not only do you not have any “truther” friends but you obviously have no real friends as well. I’m certain you live alone or in your mother’s basement and have no education or steady employment and you’re 38 years old. I’m willing to bet you’ve never had a girlfriend in your entire life. I’ve come to realize that you likely have borderline personality disorder with schizoaffective tendencies evidenced by delusions of grandeur and persecution (look it up). You are as big a hypocrite as any of the right-wingers you so despise and you are so filled with hate that you are likely going to snap one day and go to the nearest water tower with a gun and start offing innocent civilians.
You disrespect all those who perished, were injured, or lost a loved one on 9/11 and you make honest secular liberals like myself look foolish. So good job Larry you true patriot and fighter of truth, justice and the American way.

Have fun wasting and living out your life vicariously through your pathetic excuse for a blog. I’m going to go play with my beautiful wife and son who although only a toddler already knows more than you ever will.

Jas

P.S.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BzGd0t8v-d4&mode=related&search=

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LoDqDvbgeXM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t2axP1lWFhg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQuIhJId1JY

See you later my little prag.

real truth online said...

yes, and jas claims he has a MASTERS!!! aMasters in what? Deflection and ignoring? LOL----yeah, Greg Palast is one of my favorites---straight talker right thru the BS and to the truth. Whats funny is Eugene, it took Jas THREE days just to come up with the SAME re-posting, attacking, sarcasm and avoidance that he's known for! THREE days! Maybe, just maybe he was on the brink of refuting one of my points, and then his head exploded and he just let it all out and said "PWwwwahhhhh! Dammit! I have nothing! I'll just re-post the same shit so I wont have to ADMIT I am not able to refute him!"-----LOL. Funny thing is, like I said earlier---it would have been BETTER if he would have kept ignoring me then to post more of his same dodge and delection! He's a total dipshit.

real truth online said...

LOL!!!!! As soon as my post went up there is he is AGAIN, the SAME post!! GOD he has NO brain! He has the TRUTH yet REPEATING and RE-POSTING is all he has in his arsenal!!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Hey Jas! Did you read my above post where you said, and I quote:

"Give me one fact Larry, your best one and I'll glady refute it. Or better yet give me your top 10 "Facts" and I'll refute them all one by one. I'm waiting now Larry. Your top 10 facts and your list of those you've implicated who are involved on your site.". DO YOU REALIZE HOW MUCH OF AN ASS THIS MAKES YOU??????

Jas said...

You might as well put it on comment moderation because for the next year I will come to this site every day and post this same exact post if it isn't in the top article's comment section. And I run my business through my home so I'm on the internet every day, so lucky you!

Also I no longer bother to read your posts at all much less your articles after I tore you're Mineta interview theory to bits SO BE AWARE YOUR INSULTS WILL NEVER REACH ME. My wife pities you and says I'm being mean picking on someone with an "obvious mental defect." LMAO! Also be aware I've created a little montage of our discussions and I'm emailing and posting them monthly on all the truther websites I can find. Hope you enjoy the exposure :)

Go ahead Larry keep deleting. I going to run you from your own site just like others did before me. You're so ashamed to see our posts because they embarass you in front of your 2 online buddies. You just can't handle it, you're WEAK in every sense of the word. Just like everyone else who's ever come here and debated you all you ever do is resort to insults and the delete button. And it was sooooo easy.

So go back to moderating and blog purgatory you hypocritical loser. I and everyone who's ever debated you here has kicked your pathetic excuse for a 38 year old's arse with astounding ease. Your site will forever be compromised if you delete my posts as you will have to put it on "comment moderation" and only then your 2 friends will be the only ones who bother to post (ignorant Gene who thinks I'm a Bush supporter... lmao, and the other person who comments: You as "anonymous" or some other made up name).

Ladies and gentlemen, if you come to this site know that the site's creator will not stand for debate on his fantasyland 9/11 issues and will delete posts that differ from his views (note the dozens of "deleted by site administrator" comments stemming back to 2006 in which others have called Larry on his bullshit). He calls himself a patriot and blames Fox news for showing only one side of the argument. Who's the real hypocrite Larry? The only reason he’s opened posts again is because I contacted some of the “truther” websites he linked on his page and informed them of how he hurts their cause, ridiculous as it is.

I'll be shocked if this post lasts more than an hour.

The following are quotes made by this site’s creator when someone disputes his lies regarding 9/11. Keep in mind I have been a staunch critic of nearly everything this current Bush administration has done. I am an avid liberal, secular progressive who does not believe in any religion whatsoever and hasn't voted Republican in my life. I also believe Bush should be impeached for the Iraq war deception among other things. My friends would tell you if anyone would like for the 9/11 conspiracy to be true it would be someone like me but I’m way too intelligent to believe in anything that can’t be proven.

As quoted from this site's creator Larry Simons when refuting 9/11 claims:

"You're a total SHITHEAD, and if I was you, Id kill myself."

"You’re a fucking CHICKEN"

"SHOW ME SOME OF YOUR OVERWHELING EVIDENCE ASSHOLE!"

"You don’t know SHIT!"

Here’s only one of my responses:
For the record I believe my own eyes and reason along with most of the 9/11 Commission Report on 9/11, the Popular Mechanics report on debunking 9/11 myths, staunch anti-government leftist and MIT Professor and father of modern linguistics Noam Chomsky's scholarly articles along with reporting from Keith Olbermann, Arianna Huffington, Bill Maher, Brian Williams, Dan Rather, the videotape of bin Laden explaining how he helped mastermind the 9/11 attacks, the thousands of eyewitness accounts on the matter and the hundreds of reputable scholarly publications and FACTUAL websites that report the truth about 9/11.

There's no use arguing with you crackpots. I've seen the conspiracy crap all over the internet. These "theorists" have a so-called answer for everything when in fact all they have are questions.

I saw the planes hit the towers. I saw the towers eventually fall starting where each plane hit those towers yet there's websites telling me no planes hit the buildings... it was all done with blue screens just like in Terminator 2, or it was done via controlled demolition from a black-ops team from our own government. I'm not stupid enough to believe that and I'm joined by your heroes, Olbermann, Huffington and Carlin.

If you wanted to I'm sure you could give me 100 websites that tell me Bigfoot felled those towers. My granddaddy used to tell me... "Son, there's no use arguing with a fool."

YOU HAVE NO PROOF LARRY. NONE. JUST A BUNCH OF POSTS FROM HUNDREDS OF INTERNET CRACKPOT WEBSITES. BOTTOM LINE.

And I’m sorry Larry but you continue to show your lack of intelligence with eloquent quotes like these...
"We’re in BIG trouble if this guy is our next President. He truly is a piece of shit." - Larry Simons

"Of course, as a reflection of how stupid America is, I get the occasional idiotic comment like, "Look what Ray Nagin did in New Orleans!" - Larry Simons on how stupid America is. You must really love your country Larry. You call the American people "stupid cowards" and then make baseless claims our own government (corrupt as it may be) is directly responsible for killing 3000+ of their own on 9/11.
Another Larry quote: "I’m tired of talking to stupid, ignorant, mind-controlled, unpatriotic American citizens like you."

Larry I've read more books from respected scholars and ex-government officials criticizing American foreign policy than you ever will. I've also taken several Master's level courses on related subjects which is more than you can say with your high school education and your complete and total reliance on unreliable and discreditable websites for your ridiculous 9/11 theories posted by crackpots with no education like yourself.

You hate America and its people, fine, but don't accuse me of being a "stupid, ignorant mind-controlled American" when you yourself exhibit more ignorance, stupidity and hate for your fellow countrymen in nearly every post you display.

If anyone is being "mind-controlled" it is you from all those other "truthers" out there."
You're speculating about things you don't know and making baseless accusations as usual scooter. You and all the other "truthers." Everything with you clods is a case of one plus one equals three. It's a piling up of improbabilities.

Speculation isn't a fact scooter and questions aren’t either.

The burden of proof isn't on me. It’s on you. If you truly had facts the entire world would know. Its similar to science vs. religion debate... the burden of proof is not on non-believers. Fact is the National Academy of Scientists believes your 9/11 theories about as much as they believe the Bible or Koran is the word of God, and reasonable men know this.

If there was a "mountain" of evidence surely you should hire a lawyer and sue all the people who are involved in this massive conspiracy of yours... Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, the entire BBC, ABC, NBC, FOX, owner of building 7, the editors of Popular Mechanics, the CIA, FBI, NSA. Wow that's a lot of people to keep quiet on such a major conspiracy and that’s just the tip of the iceberg, think of the countless others involved we don't even know about!

If you had any proof, people like your heroes Olbermann and Huffington would be reporting it or are they complicit too? Can I put them on the list of co-conspirators?

So you and your high school education are more intelligent than Noam Chomsky eh? I've read practically everything he's ever written and he'd be reporting the "facts" if there were any and he doesn't resort to telling people who disagree with him to kill themselves or write moronic sentences like "It's another to swallow jizz for a living for all the world to see."

The answer is no, your heroes will not report your baseless claims because they would lose all credibility. They don't report your false claims just like they don't report when someone claims the Loch Ness Monster is real even though I can give you 1,000 websites that give the same type of "proof" you're spewing. Can you prove the Loch Ness Monster doesn't exist Larry? I didn't think so.

So go ahead Larry ask me a specific question if you can pose an intelligent one without resorting to insults and homophobic slurs. I'm waiting. Oh and when you do so could you also prove to me that Bigfoot and the Loch Ness monster don't exist because I have proof that clearly shows otherwise.

I've identified myself repeatedly as a proud liberal who despises what the Bush administration has done over the last 6 years. I also have expressed myself as an unabashed O'Reilly, Coulter, and Fox News critic. That said you could probably assume I don't think being gay is a disease and firmly believe gays should be able to marry, adopt or have their own children and openly serve in the military. They should have every right as the rest of us. And to insinuate that I am gay in such a judgmental way screams of homophobia or plain hatred for homosexuals. Why would you attempt to make such an insult and laugh about it unless you felt otherwise?

You are quoted as saying, "Live and let be gay, I always say...(not really)" What Larry? Are you one of those intolerant hypocritical types like O'Reilly and Coulter who believes God cares what people do while naked? And the line, "It's another to swallow jizz for a living for all the world to see." won't be winning you any Pulitzers let me tell you.

You wouldn't last five minutes in a college level debate class. YOU'RE DELETING MY POSTS BECAUSE ANYONE WHO COMES TO THIS SITE WILL SEE WHAT I'VE SAID TEARS YOUR WHOLE THEORY TO SHREDS!!!

Don't stoop to Larry's level (he is "real truth") and tell your debate opponent to commit suicide. Larry's just showing his true colors. If he took all the garbage about 9/11 off this site it would actually be worth visiting but my guess is he's invested too much money in 9/11 "truthers" t-shirts to turn back now. Plus he's a lot like George Bush and Bill O'Reilly in that he will never ever admit he is wrong despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary.

I'm sure you're narcissistic enough to think you're just like King, Murrow, Paine and Lincoln but every one of them would roll over in their graves regarding the crap you're spewing about 9/11. And its one thing to be embarrassed by your government and to question your government. It’s entirely something else with what you're doing with baseless accusations re: 9/11. You come across as hating this country whether you like it or not.

I'll say it again, you've yet to give any proof whatsoever and this is coming from someone who despises what those in charge have done to our country over the last 6 years.

This site has no credibility because of your foolish 9/11 conspiracy bunk. If you took all the 9/11 crap down and focused on the Iraq war, Katrina/FEMA, record deficits, tax cuts for the rich, Scooter Libby, 40 million without healthcare, Abu Gharib, warentless wiretaps, Abramoff, Cunningham, Delay, Foley, Ney, Enron/Halliburton, gas prices, No Child Left Behind, Fox News and the startling hypocrisy of a so-called "Christian" president people might actually take you seriously. But until you throw away all your 9/11 "truthers" t-shirts saying how the BBC, Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, the owner of building 7, popular mechanics ect ect ect were all involved in this massive conspiracy you have absolutely no credibility.

You have no proof Larry. None. Just cutting and pasting crap from websites no one in their right mind would believe.

Without me you'd have no one to insult but if you are going to go all Bill O'Reilly on me and delete my posts because they hit too close to home go ahead, I'd expect nothing less from you.

Fire away Bill O Jr. We can't have anyone disagreeing with you're posts now can we? And you say you strive for truth. My arse.

And by the way you've done more name calling and insulting than I have by miles and miles. You're just as bad as the hypocrites you try to bring down.
Exactly you're so much smarter than all of them put together... there sitting at home in podunk hicksville Hagersbush looking up crackpot websites at 3am instead of actually going to college or reading scholarly publications on these matters. "OH MY GOD THE BBC TIMESTAMP PROVES IT ALL! PEOPLE WHO DON'T BELIEVE BUSH IS BEHIND 9/11 ARE COWARDS AND COMPLACENT! ACTOR CHARLIE SHEEN SAID THERE'S A COVERUP! POPULAR MECHANICS, THE BBC, THE OWNER OF BUILDING 7, EVERY MEMBER OF THE BUSH ADMINISTRATION, THE CIA, FBI, NSA AND PENTAGON OFFICIALS ARE ALL PART OF THIS MASSIVE CONSPIRACY!" DON'T TRUST THE N.Y. TIMES, ABC, CNN, FOX NEWS, MSNBC, OR YOUR OWN SENSE OF REASON AND INTELLIGENCE EVERONE... TRUST LARRY AND THE TRUTH SHALL SET YOU FREE!!!

Dude seriously, I saw your picture... you're young and that gives you somewhat of a pass but that still doesn't mean you're not in need of some serious medication. I'm one of the folks that think Bush and the lot should be tried for war crimes for the Iraq fiasco but every bit of "evidence" you provide on 9/11 is looney toons. The people you quote and provide stories from are nutbags and have absolutely no credibility. I bet you've never even heard of Chomsky who would never let something like this B.S. conspiracy go unstudied.

Yes, let us all bow to Larry Simons who sits at home at night in his mommy's basement cutting and pasting junk he finds on the internet and thinks he's smarter than the thousands of scientists, scholars, journalists and eyeball witnesses who know more about 9/11 than he could ever hope. Thanks for providing the truth for us “uneducated cowards and complacent morons” Larry. And to think how comfortable we all were not questioning authority until you came along and opened our eyes to how government is corrupt. God Bless you Larry Simons and God Bless America!

Go ahead Larry and now pull a Bill O'Reilly and tell me how I made your argument stronger. No spin from you eh? Your argument transcends anything any of us morons could imagine right?

You keep making my argument for me Larry. All you can do is insult others and not debate the facts like an adult. Don't you realize that alone makes me right?

Larry you do more to damage your cause than you'll ever know. Its people like you who make it easier for the "right wing" to garnish support for their pathetic causes.



HERE’S SOME EXAMPLES OF PREVIOUS POSTS BY PEOPLE WHO HAVE COME TO THIS SITE AND DISAGREED WITH LARRY SIMONS (Check out the posts from 2006 and note the hypocrisy from this site’s creator and his lack of debate skills as he can only respond with threats, insults and deleting others posts when they completely refute his baseless 9/11 claims):

“Unlike you, I do not hate you Larry. I really feel sorry for you. You go through life, angry, full of hate, rage, screaming for attention, trying to get people to believe your crackpot conspiracy theories.”

”I do pity you. I cannot think what your life is like as you wake up every morning thinking what a terrible country you live in, never seeing anything good in life, and as you sit in front of your computer and spewing your hate toward anyone who disagrees with you.”

”The last thing you want to have the light of truth shown on you.”

”At the same time I find you somewhat funny. To read your posts as you meltdown and launch into a profanity filled posts is good for a good chuckle.”
“One cannot reason with someone engulfed in hate as you are.”

”Not one major newspaper, or TV news show will give you the time of day. Or are they part of the grand conspiracy as well??? (Twilight Zone music is now playing in Larry's head)”

“I may be at fault for feeding your rage. Like a spoiled child who craves attention, when I pay attention to you, you smile and start pounding the keyboard once again. I see I am the only one posting on your piece of shit website, so I am at fault. I hope your shrink does not hold it against me.”

“All I can say is I've answered your questions, and you've answered none of mine, looks like to me your doing the ignoring, but why let facts get in the way?
You've never addressed anything I’ve asked, why?
No one threatens as a bluff, they use it when they have no other choice, you know, like when you have no answers.”

“You couldn't beat me with facts, so you used threats, your only weapon. I beat you with facts you couldn't dispute, cause if you could have you would have answered my questions, so you used threats, not to beat me, but to quiet me, your pathetic, you complain about not debating, then you don't debate, you run and hide, delete posts, and threaten.”

”The only responses we get from you is cursing, name calling, and threats, that’s your answers to everything? That’s the answer you give when questioned by someone? Looks like you don't have much "truth" in your arsenal, but you do have a ton of crap.”

”This is my last post to you, since there's no point because you refuse to answer anything I ask, but we both know who won, the one who answered questions won, which would be me. The one who refused to answer anything lost, which would be you. c/ya!”

“You do the exact same you bitch about; once again you accuse others of what you do. You never answered any on my questions, you dodged, and weaved, and your answers were cursing, and name calling, lol.”

“Is that what the truthers do when they have no point, name call? Cause that’s all you do when you have no answer, you ignore, and name call, does your eyes burn when you read the truth? Be careful you'll go blind reading the truth, your more of a nazi than anyone, you spew more propaganda than Hitler ever did.”
Anyone see a recurring theme here?


My final comment:

Larry I do so pity you as well as those who you say agree with you. Funny how few of your fellow “truthers” out there actually come to your site or to your defense. Sad, but not only do you not have any “truther” friends but you obviously have no real friends as well. I’m certain you live alone or in your mother’s basement and have no education or steady employment and you’re 38 years old. I’m willing to bet you’ve never had a girlfriend in your entire life. I’ve come to realize that you likely have borderline personality disorder with schizoaffective tendencies evidenced by delusions of grandeur and persecution (look it up). You are as big a hypocrite as any of the right-wingers you so despise and you are so filled with hate that you are likely going to snap one day and go to the nearest water tower with a gun and start offing innocent civilians.
You disrespect all those who perished, were injured, or lost a loved one on 9/11 and you make honest secular liberals like myself look foolish. So good job Larry you true patriot and fighter of truth, justice and the American way.

Have fun wasting and living out your life vicariously through your pathetic excuse for a blog. I’m going to go play with my beautiful wife and son who although only a toddler already knows more than you ever will.

Jas

P.S.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BzGd0t8v-d4&mode=related&search=

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LoDqDvbgeXM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t2axP1lWFhg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQuIhJId1JY

See you later my little prag.

real truth online said...

Funny how Jas condemned Douglas Herman when he talked about cowards, because Jas is EXACTLY THAT! A COWARD. This is what Douglas Herman says about people like Jas:

"Cowardice is the most understandable of denials of 911. It is convenient to deny 911 out of fear, because to do otherwise, to look at the evidence presented by the most powerful empire in the world, requires a heretical leap of independent thought. A mental insurrection worthy of revolutionaries, pioneers, patriots and outraged citizens. But cowards cannot sift the evidence and arrive at an independent conclusion. They have been beaten and cowed and, at most, can only cringe and howl in derision from the rear. At every original thought or contrary opinion (contrary to the state and the corporate media that is), they howl and scurry away, anonymously."

That's Jas----to a T.

real truth online said...

Hey Jas, you stupid mother fucker---why dont you RE-POST YOUR OWN comments to me that I reposted above? RE-POST THIS!: THESE ARE YOUR WORDS!!! ASSHOLE! Why dont we meet and debate this in person? Know why you dont? Because in person you will ACTUALLY be required to have the info in your head---no access to a computer---as if you answer me anyway! Read YOUR words again, here they are!:

10. Yawn. Is that the best you've got Larry?
Larry what does the Mineta interview prove. Answer: Nothing.
March 16, 2007 11:56:00 PM EDT

9. Sure would like to see your list of all those involved in the 9/11 conspiracy who you've implicated on your joke of a website Larry.
Also one fact would be nice.
Waiting on nothing I'm sure.
March 17, 2007 12:23:00 AM EDT

8. I've also taken several Master's level courses on related subjects which is more than you can say with your high school education and your complete and total reliance on unreliable and discreditable websites for your ridiculous 9/11 theories posted by crackpots with no education like yourself.
March 16, 2007 1:54:00 PM EDT

7. I'm still waiting on a "fact" Larry.
And if Douglas Herman calls American's cowards and you agree with him as you say then you must think Americans are cowards. that's plain english scooter.
March 16, 2007 11:03:00 PM EDT

6. Larry, I guess you haven't been reading my posts, just deleting them because I shred your 9/11 theory to bits
March 13, 2007 6:07:00 PM EDT

5. I still have yet to see any real evidence ever posted on this entire site. You have no proof whatsoever. NONE!
What exactly do you need me to refute Larry? If there was a "mountain" of evidence surely you should hire a lawyer and sue all the people who are involved in this massive conspiracy of yours
March 16, 2007 1:08:00 PM EDT
(NO REAL EVIDENCE? I JUST POSTED A MILE OF IT-----WHICH I MIGHT ADD YOU IGNORED! LOL)

4. God this is way too easy making you look a fool.
March 16, 2007 1:32:00 PM EDT
(THE ONLY THING MAKING YOU LOOK FOOLISH IS YOUR SAME TIRESOME MILE LONG POST, MR. MASTERS DEGREE!!)

THIS ONE'S MY FAVORITE:
3. Give me one fact Larry, your best one and I'll glady refute it. Or better yet give me your top 10 "Facts" and I'll refute them all one by one.
I'm waiting now Larry. Your top 10 facts and your list of those you've implicated who are involved on your site.
March 16, 2007 5:55:00 PM EDT
(GLADY REFUTE THEM HUH????? BUT YET IT TOOK YOU 3 DAYS TO POST SOMETHING, AND WHEN YOU DID, IT WAS THE SAME OLD TIRESOME POST!! LOL)

2. Hilarious that you have to work on coming up with 10 facts for me and then you attempt to give me one fact and you can't even do that! YOU CAN'T GIVE ONE FACT LARRY! I'M TRULY LAUGHING MY ASS OFF NOW! You're speculating about things you don't know and making baseless accusations as usual scooter. You and all the other "truthers." Everything with you clods is a case of one plus one equals three. It's a piling up of improbabilities.
Geesh is that the best you've got? Pathetic. Speculation isn't a fact scooter. Still waiting on one fact.
March 16, 2007 11:38:00 PM EDT
(NOPE, NOT THE BEST I GOT---I JUST GAVE YOU THE BEST, AND OF COUSE, YOU IGNORED THEM)

1. Still waiting on one fact.
March 17, 2007 12:05:00 AM EDT

real truth online said...

Jas! COWARD!! Douglas Herman was RIGHT! WE are right about 9/11---thats why you hide behind the computer and your SAME reptitive post over and over! COWARD!!!! Keep on posting it dickhead---Ill put moderation back on and we will just talk about you on here FOREVER and you will not be able to respond---asshole!

real truth online said...

Give me one fact Larry, your best one and I'll glady refute it. Or better yet give me your top 10 "Facts" and I'll refute them all one by one.
I'm waiting now Larry. Your top 10 facts and your list of those you've implicated who are involved on your site.
March 16, 2007 5:55:00 PM EDT

real truth online said...

The words of Jas---the ASS: (Mr MASTERS degree--lol)

"Give me one fact Larry, your best one and I'll glady refute it. Or better yet give me your top 10 "Facts" and I'll refute them all one by one.
I'm waiting now Larry. Your top 10 facts and your list of those you've implicated who are involved on your site."
March 16, 2007 5:55:00 PM EDT

Real Truth Online said...

Jas- or I should say....Ass------STILL WAITING ON YOU TO GLADLY REFUTE ME!!!! LOL

PUSSY!!!

Real Truth Online said...

Come on Jas, just PICK 1 point from 1 of my smoking guns. Just one point from ANY of the 10, and refute me---come on---you said youd "GLADLY" do it----Im waiting

Real Truth Online said...

Come on Jas, someone with a MASTERS would be able to refute my little old Bachelors degree-----but apparently you CANT do it--LOL!!!!!

Real Truth Online said...

Yeah thats right--run into your hole dipshit. How's that book reading coming along Jas? What chapter of Mien Kampf are you on? lol

Jas said...

Sorry Larry, not bothering to read your mindless drivel. Just making sure my post is still up.

See you tomorrow but don't expect anything new. Just gonna see if my original post remains up.

Good night.

Real Truth Online said...

Thats because me, Douglas Herman and everyone in the truth movement is right you dickhead. Why dont you re-post your posts to me telling me this: ""Give me one fact Larry, your best one and I'll glady refute it. Or better yet give me your top 10 "Facts" and I'll refute them all one by one.
I'm waiting now Larry. Your top 10 facts and your list of those you've implicated who are involved on your site."??????

-----PUSSY!!!

Real Truth Online said...

I will now put moderation back up---since its clear your OWN words mean NOTHING to you. You must have the self-respect of a fucking flea. Now, we are all gonna talk about you forever and laugh our asses off and never let you come back on. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Real Truth Online said...

by the way, im still laughing...hahahahahahahahahahahahaha

muahahaha I own this site said...

I win dirtbag. Corrupted your own site. Thanks for the laughs but it was a cheap thrill. Enjoy moderation because I'm gonna check once every day. If you take moderation down I will post the exact same post over and over.

You were too easy, like mentally retarded easy but fun nonetheless. Look up borderline personality disorder if you aren't on meds already lol.

Real Truth Online said...

look at the above post everyone-----PROOF that all he was doing was trying to "get at me". I had said before, it didnt work. I dont moderate to silence you, I moderate so people arent scrolling through a mile-long post that posted 15 times (for NO reason) other than to show you're mentally disturbed and acting like a 2 year old. Everyone that reads these posts can clearly, CLEARLY see that you are just a big windbag with absolutely NO substance, no debating skills, no intelligence---and as we see above---you ADMIT that you were gonna post the same post over and over-----in OTHER words: YOU LOST THE WAR ON FACTS, because since you admitted that you were gonna post it over and over---that means you cant even refute my claims...not WONT...CANT! Because people like YOU are worthless, shameful, a disgrace to America---and very very cowardly. I bet you got beat up by girls in elementary school. Youre a total coward---you post under many monikers which shows you wont tell us who you are. You know who I am, I make that NO secret---and you know what I believe. YOU on the other hand, are a scared chicken-shit piece of crap. You have no self-respect, because you cant even live up to your OWN words when you PROMISED you would refute me when I posted FACTS. You're a disgrace to America, shithead.

Real Truth Online said...

Jas, go apply at Popular Mechanics----I hear they are accepting applications for non-thinking windbags that run from facts. They need you. I heard Davin Coburn needs a brain. Maybe you two can share one.

Puck said...

That's a very insightful article. It even has nothing to do with a 9/11 inside job. But it does show just how crooked this administration is. This kind of crap alone should be enough to try those bastards for 'high crimes and misdemeanors'. But the goddamned democrats we voted into office won't get off their asses and launch a criminal investigation because they are marinated in big oil, too.

Corporartions have way more power than they should and they are trampling all over citizens.

Real Truth Online said...

Yeah, and since I hate this administration, I get accused of loving Democrats and i dont----Im a registered Independant. Not Joe Leiberman Independant---I mean a REAL Independant. The Neo-Libs are just aiding and abetting this piece of trash administration.

Real Truth Online said...

what's funny about the "me loving Democrats" accusation is that I want a REPUBLICAN as our next President---Ron Paul.

Eugene said...

Jas, I am impressed with you educated ignorance.
I dedicate this little diddy to you:

"I can't seem to face up to the facts-

I'm tense and nervous and I
Can't relax-

I can't sleep 'cause my bed's on fire

Don't touch me I'm a real live wire

Psycho Killer-
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better
Run run run run run run run away

Psycho Killer
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Run run run run run run run away

You start a conversation you can't even finish it.

You're talkin' a lot, but you're not sayin' anything.

When I have nothing to say, my lips are sealed.

Say something once, WHY SAY IT AGAIN????

Psycho Killer,
Qu'est Que C'est
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better
Run run run run run run run away

Psycho Killer

Qu'est Que C'est
fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa far better
Run run run run run run run away

Ce que j'ai fais, ce soir la
Ce qu'elle a dit, ce soir la

Realisant mon espoir
Je me lance, vers la gloire ...

OK- We are vain and we are blind

I hate people when they're not polite

Psycho Killer,
Qu'est Que C'est
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Run run run run run run run away



Psycho Killer,
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better
Run run run run run run run away

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the_last_name_left said...

L: comments above deleted because it was the SAME post Jas posted below on the "10 smoking guns" thread. It was a 10 foot long post and he posted it twice. If this continues, I will have to put moderation on again because of assholes like this that just re-post the EXACT SAME post over and over just to "get my goat" and to make me say I will moderate comments. I know that what he's doing, and he thinks when I decide to moderate posts it's because he's "won". He hasnt won, because I know thats why he does it. Hes a fucking CHICKEN and purposely doesnt address anything on the stories I post, even when he PROMISES he will debate when facts are posted. Hes a fucking CHICKEM COWARD and LIAR. So, people, if I go back to moderating again, keep in mind, it is ONLY to stop people from making a mockery of the blog. All Jas does is post the same 10 foot long post over and over--and if I didnt moderate comments. You would have to scroll down through a mile of shit just to read the recent posts. So, keep in mind, if I moderate, your posts will STILL be included no matter if you agree or disagree with my posts. I am only doing it to stop people like Jas----who offer no intellectual debate and who re-posts over and over just to be the childish BABY he is. I bet the next posts by him will be the SAME long posts and NOTHING new in them, because he's a WEAK, IGNORANT, MINDLESS ASSHOLE! Yeah, Jas, I am namecalling, i admit it

HAHA - that's the same reason I deleted your spam from my blog, Larry. ie because your behaviour was identical.

the_last_name_left said...

except - Jas has a point. You don't, Larry.

Funny, but I recognise you in these comments describing you, Larry: obviously you haven't changed at all - you STILL ignore peoples' questions.

You have ignored my question for 8 months -- "Are you an architect?"

Funny that that's such a difficult question for you to answer. lol

“All I can say is I've answered your questions, and you've answered none of mine, looks like to me your doing the ignoring, but why let facts get in the way?
You've never addressed anything I’ve asked, why?


This is true Larry - you refuse to answer questions. ARE YOU AN ARCHITECT (for the 200th time?)

“You couldn't beat me with facts, so you used threats, your only weapon. I beat you with facts you couldn't dispute, cause if you could have you would have answered my questions, so you used threats, not to beat me, but to quiet me, your pathetic, you complain about not debating, then you don't debate, you run and hide, delete posts, and threaten.”

Are you an architect, Larry?

”The only responses we get from you is cursing, name calling, and threats, that’s your answers to everything? That’s the answer you give when questioned by someone? Looks like you don't have much "truth" in your arsenal, but you do have a ton of crap.”

Are you an architect, Larry?

”This is my last post to you, since there's no point because you refuse to answer anything I ask, but we both know who won, the one who answered questions won, which would be me. The one who refused to answer anything lost, which would be you. c/ya!”

Are you an architect Larry?

You do the exact same you bitch about; once again you accuse others of what you do. You never answered any on my questions, you dodged, and weaved, and your answers were cursing, and name calling, lol.”


Are you an architect, Larry?

“Is that what the truthers do when they have no point, name call? Cause that’s all you do when you have no answer, you ignore, and name call, does your eyes burn when you read the truth? Be careful you'll go blind reading the truth, your more of a nazi than anyone, you spew more propaganda than Hitler ever did.”
Anyone see a recurring theme here?


Are you an architect, Larry?


LOL

Larry said...

Actually, once again, youre WRONG. Jas' post was a big long ad hominem attack and it served no purpose other than to spam up my thread. I was asking QUESTIONS, which served a purpose. See the major difference now???

the_last_name_left said...

No.

Jas was asking for definite evidence - and you have nothing.

you were spamming me with irrelevant hypothetical questions.

And you are definitely guilty of not answering questions.

ARE YOU AN ARCHITECT?

See......you refuse to answer that simple question.....yet feel you have the right to continually demand answers from others - even to silly, irrelevant questions.

Larry said...

spamming YOU with the questions???? Hmmmmm, funny. I thought I was asking SOCRATES the questions!

"Irrelevant, hypothetical"??? Translation: No matter how SOCRATES answered them, they would have incriminated his views---and of course, he couldnt have that, could he?

the_last_name_left said...

incriminated Socrates? If you say so......lol

I dunno, I'm not Socrates.

He's posted a story about you.....link at my blog, if you're interested (I know you are) :D

Still, you haven't answered - ARE YOU AN ARCHITECT, LARRY?