Monday, March 5, 2007

BBC's 9/11 Yellow Journalism Backfires

Building 7 becomes the Achilles heel of the official conspiracy theory

Paul Joseph Watson
March 5, 2007

The BBC's Conspiracy Files documentary hit piece and their flustered attempts to adopt damage control over questions about why their correspondent reported the collapse of Building 7 before it happened, have only provoked a firestorm of new interest in 9/11 truth and exalted questions surrounding WTC 7 to the point where it is now the Achilles' heel of the official conspiracy theory.
The BBC was forced to issue a second response on Friday afternoon following a barrage of criticism against their initial effort to dismiss the Building 7 fiasco and their claim that they had mysteriously lost all footage from BBC World's 9/11 coverage.
Right from the word go the BBC have attempted to cloud this issue by erecting and attacking another strawman framed debate, the accusation they were somehow part of a grand conspiracy on 9/11, in order to try and detract credibility from the questions being asked of them.
In reality, this story boils down to two facets and the BBC has not provided an adequate answer to either of them;
a) What was the source of the information that led the BBC to report that Building 7 had collapsed before it did? In his second response, head of BBC World Richard Porter cites CNN, local news media and unnamed firefighters who were interviewed after the fact, but still cannot provide an individual or authority by name.
Porter attempts to create a scenario whereby the collapse of Building 7 was easily anticipated, and this is why news organizations jumped the gun to report its demise. In reality, WTC 7 stood over 300 yards away from the twin towers and was partly shielded by WTC 6 which did not collapse yet was completely gutted by raging fires and debris damage, whereas WTC 7 had limited fires. Building 7 was structurally reinforced in 1989 giving it, "Enough redundancy to allow entire portions of floors to be removed without affecting the building's structural integrity," according to the New York Times.
The BBC's 9/11 Conspiracy Files documentary claimed that Building 7 was a "raging inferno," a gross error considering the fact that fires spread sporadically across just eight floors of the skyscraper.

Nobody could have anticipated the building's collapse unless they knew that explosive devices were in place to take it down. NYPD officers heard bombs as they ran away from its implosion. First responders were told that the building was to be "brought down," not that it was going to collapse on its own. The process of informing the news agencies in advance that it was in danger of collapsing was merely an attempt to precondition the watching audience to what would otherwise have been an extremely suspicious occurrence.
We can now be reasonably confident in identifying the Rudy Giuliani's OEM as the source of the "warning" that Building 7 was going to collapse. OEM is New York City’s Office of Emergency Management. OEM personnel, by pure coincidence of course, arrived early on the morning of 9/11 to prepare for an exercise that simulated a terrorist attack on New York City. They were located in Building 7.
This means that the OEM were not only telling the BBC and other media that Building 7 had collapsed or was in the process of collapsing before it did, a forecast inconceivable in the context that no modern steel building had collapsed from fire damage alone allied to the fact that WTC 7 had been structurally reinforced to prevent such a collapse, but they were also handing out the explanation for its collapse in advance. In the BBC's footage, the anchor Phil Hayton states, "It seems this wasn't the result of a new attack but because the building had been weakened during this morning's attack."
Richard Porter tacitly admits that such detailed foreknowledge of an event that is yet to occur is highly suspicious ("in one sense that's true") but then attempts to dismiss it simply because the reporter used the words "it seems."
Building 7 fell in an almost perfect implosion at near free fall speed and its debris barely even blocked the street next to it - the building collapsed in its own footprint. Surely a collapse as a result of fire damage, an event unparalleled with a modern steel building until that day, would have resulted in at least a marginally inconsistent collapse? Anyone with eyes to see can judge that this building was deliberately imploded, as news anchors like Dan Rather stated on the day.



The collapse of the Windsor Building in Madrid was, solely as a result of 9/11, anticipated by the media in triplicate but it never happened because modern steel buildings do not symmetrically collapse as a result of fire damage alone.
Who would have anticipated the collapse of Building 7 in such circumstances? Certainly not Dutch demolition expert Danny Jowenko, who was shown the footage of Building 7 along with the building's structural diagrams and immediately concluded it was deliberately demolished.
Whoever informed the news agencies that the building was about to collapse had precise knowledge of the fact that it was being deliberately "pulled," and only by identifying that individual or authority, be it Giuliani's OEM or anyone else, and putting them before a grand jury, can we move closer to cracking the cover-up.
b) How can we trust the BBC or the establishment media in general to provide accurate information about any major event when all they do is repeat what is told to them and relay it as gospel with no independent verification whatsoever, to the point where we are told a building has collapsed by a reporter while it mockingly stands behind her head?
Bob Woodward, the US journalist who helped break the Watergate scandal, last week called on reporters to "take more time on stories" and be more aggressive in verifying information given to them by official authorities. Woodward said the round the clock deadline news cycle is a "crazy environment" that needs to be "slowed down."
The BBC Building 7 fiasco is a damning indictment of the slippery slide from real investigative reporting to "rip and read" instant gratification, whereby news organizations become mere public relation conduits for governments and "official" authorities. In that context the BBC are just as complicit as anyone else in manufacturing the official conspiracy theory behind 9/11 and the one that has remained simply because it was reported first. This myth is propagated by the fallacies of building collapses before the fact, magic hijacker passports that survive giant firey airline impacts, and deliberate suppression of dozens and dozens of eyewitness reports of bombs at all levels of the twin towers.



The arrogance of Porter and the BBC in general in still refusing to even admit that they made an error in reporting the collapse of a building before it fell clearly illustrates the pomposity of these individuals in thinking themselves somehow above the scrutiny of the very people who fund their existence. This whole episode has led many who were previously highly skeptical of the "9/11 truth movement" to do their own research on this and the many other questions surrounding September 11.
Building 7 is the weakest link holding together the official conspiracy theory that was dutifully propped up and retold by the lapdog mainstream media on 9/11. The Conspiracy Files debacle allied to the WTC 7 BBC fiasco that followed it has given 9/11 truth a fresh impetus and we thank the BBC in the context that their fallacious yellow journalism has resulted in a new wave of interest in dismantling the official fraud.

15 comments:

Jas said...

If you read this article you just wasted 25 seconds of your life.

real truth online said...

youre obsessed with my site----why else would you frequent it? I dont visit sites I think are bullshit! Why do you "waste your time" even LOOKING at my site if you think its shit? Know why? Because you're ONLY contribution to this country and to the truth to 9/11 or the fake "war on terror" is coming on blogsites and nae calling without addressing SHIT! Thank you once again for giving credence to our side. Tip your waitress

Charles Goyette said...

Its clear the only sites you visit are bullshit, then you cut and paste that crap to this site.

As for me, this is the only site I frequent that is bullshit. Well this and Fox News anyway.

real truth online said...

yes and I give the writer the credit, unlike YOU that cut and pastes stories and u pass it off as YOU---

Jas said...

I never once cut and pasted anything, and by the way how many "Achilles heels" of the official conspiracy theory are there? LOL.

real truth online said...

unless youre going to debate, or offer some substance, Im going to start deleting you. I mean, I'm against censorship, but what you're doing is just using this blog to spew your hatred and to be a provocateur. I dont have time for complete morons. This is your warning. Im not telling you WHAT to say per se, you can say anything you want as long as it's not meant to be to provoke. I'll give you an example of what I mean. You can call me names all you want, "kook", "nut"---anything, but BACK IT UP with WHY you call me that! I always back up EVERYTHING I say. You dont have to AGREE with what I say, but at least I OFFER explanations! YOU DONT! You just name call, provoke and then run like a scared sissy. So, you can say anything you like, call any name you want, but BACK IT UP and debate. It's just like not being able to yell "fire" in a crowded theater----you have free speech but there's limits to that. I wont let you be a continual provocateur. Back it up or shut up! This is your warning.

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eugene said said...

This is a great site! The 9/11 official fairy tale is unraveling and the
shills don't want to except the truth. How else can they shrug off the story
about the BBC reporting the future. This is a major smoking gun proving fore
knowledge and gov't involvement. The official story reports that Building 7
collapsed due to fires. Look at any of the photos. There were never any
raging fires. The little fires visible are all near the windows were they
can be seen. The police had been told another plane was heading to New York.
I am certain that Building 7 was the intended target because demolition
charges were in place. The White House "Evil-Doers" needed a plane to strike
building 7, but something went wrong an Flight 93 crashed. Without flight 93
available to strike Building 7, the real terrorists hastily set as many
fires as possible near windows and started announcing that the building was
going to come down. Unfortunately for them the demolition did not happen on
time and the demolition was reported prematurely.

I understand that people want to believe that the government cares and wants
to protect us. What I am amazed about is now that has been proven beyond any
doubt that is not the case, why would these shills continue trying to
pretend that reality is fantasy? Why protect the real criminals? If they did
something like 9/11 once, how can anyone believe they won't kill Americans
again

This site does an excellent job exposing the truth. Please pass this link on
to others. I have.

Jas said...

give me a break Eugene if you are in fact another real person who believes this garbage.

Ladies and gentlemen, if you come to this site know that the site's creator will not stand for debate on his fantasyland 9/11 issues and will delete posts that differ from his views (note the "deleted by site administrator" comments). He calls himself a patriot and blames fox news for showing only one side of the arguement. Who's the real Hippo Larry?

LMAO, you wouldn't last five minutes in a college level debate class. YOU'RE DELETING MY POSTS BECAUSE ANYONE WHO COMES TO THIS SITE WILL SEE WHAT I'VE SAID TEARS YOUR WHOLE THEORY TO SHREDS!!!

Hypocrite... The following are quotes made by this sites creator when someone disputes his lies regarding 9/11. And I have been a staunch critic of nearly eveything this current Bush administration has done. I am an avid liberal, secular progressive who does not believe in any religion whatsoever and hasn't voted Republican in my life.

As quoted from this site's creator Larry Simons:

"You're a total SHITHEAD, and if I was you, Id kill myself."

"Youre a fucking CHICKEN"

"SHOW ME SOME OF YOUR OVERWHELING EVIDENCE ASSHOLE!"

"You dont know SHIT!"

"My prediction: You wont post ANYMORE now--AT ALL. We have officially heard the last of you. You're too chicken to say his first name---so Im SURE you will be too chicken to post on here knowing that his posts will tell me where hyou're posting from in the world. Yep, we've heard the last of you! LOL"


For the record I believe my own eyes and reason along with the 9/11 Commission Report on 9/11, the Popular Mechanics report on debunking 9/11 myths, staunch anti-government leftist and MIT Professor and father of modern linguistics Noam Chomsky's scholarly articles along with reporting from Keith Olberman, Arianna Huffington, Bill Maher, Brian Williams, Dan Rather, the videotape of bin Laden explaining how he helped mastermind the 9/11 attacks, the thousands of eyewitness accounts on the matter and the hundreds of reputable scholarly publications and FACTUAL websites that report the truth about 9/11.
There's no use arguing with you crackpots. I've seen the conspiracy crap all over the internet. These "theorists" have a so-called answer for everything.

I saw the planes hit the towers. I saw the towers eventually fall starting where each plane hit those towers yet there's websites telling me no planes hit the buildings... it was all done with blue screens just like in Terminator 2, or it was done via controlled demolishion from a blackops team from our own government. I'm not stupid enough to believe that and I'm joined by your heroes, Olberman, Huffington and Carlin.

If you wanted to I'm sure you could give me 100 websites that tell me bigfoot felled those towers. My grandaddy used to tell me... "Son, there's no use arguing with a fool."


YOU HAVE NO PROOF LARRY. NONE. JUST A BUNCH OF POSTS FROM HUNDREDS OF INTERNET CRACKPOT WEBSITES. BOTTOM LINE.

YOU HAVE NO PROOF LARRY.

Don't stoop to Larry's level (he is "real truth") and advocate suicide. Larry's just showing his true colors. If he took all the garbage about 9/11 off this site it would actually be worth visiting but my guess is he's invested too much money in 9/11 "truthers" t-shirts to turn back now. Plus he's a lot like George Bush and Bill O'Reilly in that he will never ever admit he is wrong despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary.

I'm sure you're narcissistic enough to think you're just like King, Murrow, Paine and Lincoln but every one of them would roll over in their graves regarding the crap you're spewing about 9/11. And its one thing to be embarrased by your government and to question your government. Its entirely something else with what you're doing with baseless accusations re: 9/11. You do come across as hating this country whether you like it or not.

I'll say it again, you're wrong and you've yet to give any proof whatsoever and this is coming from someone who dispises what those in charge have done to our country over the last 6 years.

This site has no credibility because of your foolish 9/11 conspiracy bunk. If you took all the 9/11 crap down and focused on the Iraq war, Katrina/FEMA, record deficits, tax cuts for the rich, Scooter Libby, 40 million without healthcare, Abu Gharib, warentless wiretaps, Abramoff, Cunningham, Delay, Foley, Ney, Enron/Halliburton, gas prices, No Child Left Behind, Fox News and the startling hypocrisy of a so-called "Christian" president people might actually take you seriously. But until you throw away all your 9/11 "truthers" t-shirts saying how the BBC, Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, the owner of building 7, popular mechanics ect ect ect were all incvolved in this massive conspiracy you have absolutely no credibility.

You have no proof Larry. None. Just cutting and pasting crap from websites no one in their right mind would believe.

Tell me Larry can you prove to me Bigfoot doesn't exist... I bet you can't. I can give you thousands of websites and eyewitness accounts that he does in fact exist. But anyone in their right mind wouldn't debate me on it because I have proof! LMAO. Don't you know your silence on this issue just prooves I'm right?!?

Without me you'd have no one to insult but if you are gonna go all Bill O'Reilly on me and delete my posts because they hit too close to home go ahead, I'd expect nothing less from you.

YOU'RE DELETING MY POSTS BECAUSE ANYONE WHO COMES TO THIS SITE WILL SEE WHAT I'VE SAID TEARS YOUR WHOLE THEORY TO SHREDS!!!

Fire away Bill O Jr. We can't have anyone disagreeing with you're posts now can we? And you say you strive for truth. My arse.

And by the way you've done more name calling and insulting than I have by miles and miles. You're just as bad as the hypocrites you try to bring down.
Exactly you're so much smarter than all of them put together... there sitting at home in podunk hicksville Hagersbush looking up crackpot websites at 3am instead of actually going to college or reading scholarly publications on these matters. "OH MY GOD THE BBC TIMESTAMP PROVES IT ALL! PEOPLE WHO DON'T BELIEVE BUSH IS BEHIND 9/11 ARE COWARDS AND COMPLACENT! ACTOR CHARLIE SHEEN SAID THERE'S A COVERUP! POPULAR MECHANICS, THE BBC, THE OWNER OF BUILDING 7, EVERY MEMBER OF THE BUSH ADMINISTRATION, THE CIA, FBI, NSA AND PENTAGON OFFICIALS ARE ALL PART OF THIS MASSIVE CONSPIRACY!" DON'T TRUST THE N.Y. TIMES, ABC, CNN, FOX NEWS, MSNBC, OR YOUR OWN SENSE OF REASON AND INTELLIGENCE EVERONE... TRUST LARRY AND THE TRUTH SHAL SET YOU FREE!!!

Dude seriously, I saw your picture... you're young and that gives you somewhat of a pass but that still doesn't mean you're not in need of some serious medication. I'm one of the folks that think Bush and the lot should be tried for war crimes for the Iraq fiasco but every bit of "evidence" you provide on 9/11 is looney toons. The people you quote and provide stories from are nutbags and have absolutely no credibility. I bet you've never even heard of Chomsky who would never let something like this B.S. conspiracy go unstudied.

Yes, let us all bow to Larry Simons who sits at home at night in his mommy's basement cuttting and pasting junk he finds on the internet and thinks he's smarter than the thousands of scientists, scholars, journalists and eyeball witnesses who know more about 9/11 than he could ever hope. Thanks for providing the truth for us uneducated cowards and complacent morons Larry. And to think how comfortable we all were not questioning authority until you came along and opened our eyes to how government is corrupt. God Bless you Larry Simons and God Bless America!
Yes, I suppose Huffington, Olberman, Maher, Chomsky, Carlin and all the others you idolize are idiots too. I suppose they're not reporting on the "facts" you claim because they're in on the 9/11 conspiracy along with the BBC and Popular Mechanics. Tell me why aren't they reporting the "facts" Larry? Did they help plant the explosives too?

Go ahead Larry and now pull a Bill O'Reilly and tell me how I made your arguement stronger. No spin from you eh? You're agruement transcends anything any of us morons could imagine.

Just a lot of nonsensical babble and paranoia mixed with delusions of persecution and grandeur on this site when it comes to 9/11.

Larry you do more to damage your cause than you'll ever know. Its people like you who make it easier for the "right wing" to garnish support for their pathetic causes.

Real Truth Online said...

see THIS is why I delete shit! Keep saying the SAME COMMENT, OVER AND OVER!! SAY SOMETHING DIFFERENT ASSHOLE!!!

Jas said...

Ladies and gentlemen, if you come to this site know that the site's creator will not stand for debate on his fantasyland 9/11 issues and will delete posts that differ from his views (note the dozens of "deleted by site administrator" comments stemming back to 2006 in which others have called Larry on his bullshit). He calls himself a patriot and blames Fox news for showing only one side of the argument. Who's the real hypocrite Larry? The only reason he’s opened posts again is because I contacted some of the “truther” websites he linked on his page and informed them of how he hurts their cause, ridiculous as it is.

I'll be shocked if this post lasts more than an hour but if it does it seems Larry's trying to grow a pair.
The following are quotes made by this site’s creator when someone disputes his lies regarding 9/11. Keep in mind I have been a staunch critic of nearly everything this current Bush administration has done. I am an avid liberal, secular progressive who does not believe in any religion whatsoever and hasn't voted Republican in my life. I also believe Bush should be impeached for the Iraq war deception among other things. My friends would tell you if anyone would like for the 9/11 conspiracy to be true it would be someone like me but I’m way too intelligent to believe in anything that can’t be proven.

As quoted from this site's creator Larry Simons when refuting 9/11 claims:

"You're a total SHITHEAD, and if I was you, Id kill myself."

"You’re a fucking CHICKEN"

"SHOW ME SOME OF YOUR OVERWHELING EVIDENCE ASSHOLE!"

"You don’t know SHIT!"

Here’s only one of my responses:
For the record I believe my own eyes and reason along with most of the 9/11 Commission Report on 9/11, the Popular Mechanics report on debunking 9/11 myths, staunch anti-government leftist and MIT Professor and father of modern linguistics Noam Chomsky's scholarly articles along with reporting from Keith Olbermann, Arianna Huffington, Bill Maher, Brian Williams, Dan Rather, the videotape of bin Laden explaining how he helped mastermind the 9/11 attacks, the thousands of eyewitness accounts on the matter and the hundreds of reputable scholarly publications and FACTUAL websites that report the truth about 9/11.

There's no use arguing with you crackpots. I've seen the conspiracy crap all over the internet. These "theorists" have a so-called answer for everything when in fact all they have are questions.

I saw the planes hit the towers. I saw the towers eventually fall starting where each plane hit those towers yet there's websites telling me no planes hit the buildings... it was all done with blue screens just like in Terminator 2, or it was done via controlled demolition from a black-ops team from our own government. I'm not stupid enough to believe that and I'm joined by your heroes, Olbermann, Huffington and Carlin.

If you wanted to I'm sure you could give me 100 websites that tell me Bigfoot felled those towers. My granddaddy used to tell me... "Son, there's no use arguing with a fool."

YOU HAVE NO PROOF LARRY. NONE. JUST A BUNCH OF POSTS FROM HUNDREDS OF INTERNET CRACKPOT WEBSITES. BOTTOM LINE.

And I’m sorry Larry but you continue to show your lack of intelligence with eloquent quotes like these...
"We’re in BIG trouble if this guy is our next President. He truly is a piece of shit." - Larry Simons

"Of course, as a reflection of how stupid America is, I get the occasional idiotic comment like, "Look what Ray Nagin did in New Orleans!" - Larry Simons on how stupid America is. You must really love your country Larry. You call the American people "stupid cowards" and then make baseless claims our own government (corrupt as it may be) is directly responsible for killing 3000+ of their own on 9/11.
Another Larry quote: "I’m tired of talking to stupid, ignorant, mind-controlled, unpatriotic American citizens like you."

Larry I've read more books from respected scholars and ex-government officials criticizing American foreign policy than you ever will. I've also taken several Master's level courses on related subjects which is more than you can say with your high school education and your complete and total reliance on unreliable and discreditable websites for your ridiculous 9/11 theories posted by crackpots with no education like yourself.

You hate America and its people, fine, but don't accuse me of being a "stupid, ignorant mind-controlled American" when you yourself exhibit more ignorance, stupidity and hate for your fellow countrymen in nearly every post you display.

If anyone is being "mind-controlled" it is you from all those other "truthers" out there."
You're speculating about things you don't know and making baseless accusations as usual scooter. You and all the other "truthers." Everything with you clods is a case of one plus one equals three. It's a piling up of improbabilities.

Speculation isn't a fact scooter and questions aren’t either.

The burden of proof isn't on me. It’s on you. If you truly had facts the entire world would know. Its similar to science vs. religion debate... the burden of proof is not on non-believers. Fact is the National Academy of Scientists believes your 9/11 theories about as much as they believe the Bible or Koran is the word of God, and reasonable men know this.

If there was a "mountain" of evidence surely you should hire a lawyer and sue all the people who are involved in this massive conspiracy of yours... Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, the entire BBC, ABC, NBC, FOX, owner of building 7, the editors of Popular Mechanics, the CIA, FBI, NSA. Wow that's a lot of people to keep quiet on such a major conspiracy and that’s just the tip of the iceberg, think of the countless others involved we don't even know about!

If you had any proof, people like your heroes Olbermann and Huffington would be reporting it or are they complicit too? Can I put them on the list of co-conspirators?

So you and your high school education are more intelligent than Noam Chomsky eh? I've read practically everything he's ever written and he'd be reporting the "facts" if there were any and he doesn't resort to telling people who disagree with him to kill themselves or write moronic sentences like "It's another to swallow jizz for a living for all the world to see."

The answer is no, your heroes will not report your baseless claims because they would lose all credibility. They don't report your false claims just like they don't report when someone claims the Loch Ness Monster is real even though I can give you 1,000 websites that give the same type of "proof" you're spewing. Can you prove the Loch Ness Monster doesn't exist Larry? I didn't think so.

So go ahead Larry ask me a specific question if you can pose an intelligent one without resorting to insults and homophobic slurs. I'm waiting. Oh and when you do so could you also prove to me that Bigfoot and the Loch Ness monster don't exist because I have proof that clearly shows otherwise.

I've identified myself repeatedly as a proud liberal who despises what the Bush administration has done over the last 6 years. I also have expressed myself as an unabashed O'Reilly, Coulter, and Fox News critic. That said you could probably assume I don't think being gay is a disease and firmly believe gays should be able to marry, adopt or have their own children and openly serve in the military. They should have every right as the rest of us. And to insinuate that I am gay in such a judgmental way screams of homophobia or plain hatred for homosexuals. Why would you attempt to make such an insult and laugh about it unless you felt otherwise?

You are quoted as saying, "Live and let be gay, I always say...(not really)" What Larry? Are you one of those intolerant hypocritical types like O'Reilly and Coulter who believes God cares what people do while naked? And the line, "It's another to swallow jizz for a living for all the world to see." won't be winning you any Pulitzers let me tell you.

You wouldn't last five minutes in a college level debate class. YOU'RE DELETING MY POSTS BECAUSE ANYONE WHO COMES TO THIS SITE WILL SEE WHAT I'VE SAID TEARS YOUR WHOLE THEORY TO SHREDS!!!

Don't stoop to Larry's level (he is "real truth") and tell your debate opponent to commit suicide. Larry's just showing his true colors. If he took all the garbage about 9/11 off this site it would actually be worth visiting but my guess is he's invested too much money in 9/11 "truthers" t-shirts to turn back now. Plus he's a lot like George Bush and Bill O'Reilly in that he will never ever admit he is wrong despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary.

I'm sure you're narcissistic enough to think you're just like King, Murrow, Paine and Lincoln but every one of them would roll over in their graves regarding the crap you're spewing about 9/11. And its one thing to be embarrassed by your government and to question your government. It’s entirely something else with what you're doing with baseless accusations re: 9/11. You come across as hating this country whether you like it or not.

I'll say it again, you've yet to give any proof whatsoever and this is coming from someone who despises what those in charge have done to our country over the last 6 years.

This site has no credibility because of your foolish 9/11 conspiracy bunk. If you took all the 9/11 crap down and focused on the Iraq war, Katrina/FEMA, record deficits, tax cuts for the rich, Scooter Libby, 40 million without healthcare, Abu Gharib, warentless wiretaps, Abramoff, Cunningham, Delay, Foley, Ney, Enron/Halliburton, gas prices, No Child Left Behind, Fox News and the startling hypocrisy of a so-called "Christian" president people might actually take you seriously. But until you throw away all your 9/11 "truthers" t-shirts saying how the BBC, Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, the owner of building 7, popular mechanics ect ect ect were all involved in this massive conspiracy you have absolutely no credibility.

You have no proof Larry. None. Just cutting and pasting crap from websites no one in their right mind would believe.

Without me you'd have no one to insult but if you are going to go all Bill O'Reilly on me and delete my posts because they hit too close to home go ahead, I'd expect nothing less from you.

Fire away Bill O Jr. We can't have anyone disagreeing with you're posts now can we? And you say you strive for truth. My arse.

And by the way you've done more name calling and insulting than I have by miles and miles. You're just as bad as the hypocrites you try to bring down.
Exactly you're so much smarter than all of them put together... there sitting at home in podunk hicksville Hagersbush looking up crackpot websites at 3am instead of actually going to college or reading scholarly publications on these matters. "OH MY GOD THE BBC TIMESTAMP PROVES IT ALL! PEOPLE WHO DON'T BELIEVE BUSH IS BEHIND 9/11 ARE COWARDS AND COMPLACENT! ACTOR CHARLIE SHEEN SAID THERE'S A COVERUP! POPULAR MECHANICS, THE BBC, THE OWNER OF BUILDING 7, EVERY MEMBER OF THE BUSH ADMINISTRATION, THE CIA, FBI, NSA AND PENTAGON OFFICIALS ARE ALL PART OF THIS MASSIVE CONSPIRACY!" DON'T TRUST THE N.Y. TIMES, ABC, CNN, FOX NEWS, MSNBC, OR YOUR OWN SENSE OF REASON AND INTELLIGENCE EVERONE... TRUST LARRY AND THE TRUTH SHALL SET YOU FREE!!!

Dude seriously, I saw your picture... you're young and that gives you somewhat of a pass but that still doesn't mean you're not in need of some serious medication. I'm one of the folks that think Bush and the lot should be tried for war crimes for the Iraq fiasco but every bit of "evidence" you provide on 9/11 is looney toons. The people you quote and provide stories from are nutbags and have absolutely no credibility. I bet you've never even heard of Chomsky who would never let something like this B.S. conspiracy go unstudied.

Yes, let us all bow to Larry Simons who sits at home at night in his mommy's basement cutting and pasting junk he finds on the internet and thinks he's smarter than the thousands of scientists, scholars, journalists and eyeball witnesses who know more about 9/11 than he could ever hope. Thanks for providing the truth for us “uneducated cowards and complacent morons” Larry. And to think how comfortable we all were not questioning authority until you came along and opened our eyes to how government is corrupt. God Bless you Larry Simons and God Bless America!

Go ahead Larry and now pull a Bill O'Reilly and tell me how I made your argument stronger. No spin from you eh? Your argument transcends anything any of us morons could imagine right?

You keep making my argument for me Larry. All you can do is insult others and not debate the facts like an adult. Don't you realize that alone makes me right?

Larry you do more to damage your cause than you'll ever know. Its people like you who make it easier for the "right wing" to garnish support for their pathetic causes.



HERE’S SOME EXAMPLES OF PREVIOUS POSTS BY PEOPLE WHO HAVE COME TO THIS SITE AND DISAGREED WITH LARRY SIMONS (Check out the posts from 2006 and note the hypocrisy from this site’s creator and his lack of debate skills as he can only respond with threats, insults and deleting others posts when they completely refute his baseless 9/11 claims):

“Unlike you, I do not hate you Larry. I really feel sorry for you. You go through life, angry, full of hate, rage, screaming for attention, trying to get people to believe your crackpot conspiracy theories.”

”I do pity you. I cannot think what your life is like as you wake up every morning thinking what a terrible country you live in, never seeing anything good in life, and as you sit in front of your computer and spewing your hate toward anyone who disagrees with you.”

”The last thing you want to have the light of truth shown on you.”

”At the same time I find you somewhat funny. To read your posts as you meltdown and launch into a profanity filled posts is good for a good chuckle.”
“One cannot reason with someone engulfed in hate as you are.”

”Not one major newspaper, or TV news show will give you the time of day. Or are they part of the grand conspiracy as well??? (Twilight Zone music is now playing in Larry's head)”

“I may be at fault for feeding your rage. Like a spoiled child who craves attention, when I pay attention to you, you smile and start pounding the keyboard once again. I see I am the only one posting on your piece of shit website, so I am at fault. I hope your shrink does not hold it against me.”

“All I can say is I've answered your questions, and you've answered none of mine, looks like to me your doing the ignoring, but why let facts get in the way?
You've never addressed anything I’ve asked, why?
No one threatens as a bluff, they use it when they have no other choice, you know, like when you have no answers.”

“You couldn't beat me with facts, so you used threats, your only weapon.
I beat you with facts you couldn't dispute, cause if you could have you would have answered my questions, so you used threats, not to beat me, but to quiet me, your pathetic, you complain about not debating, then you don't debate, you run and hide, delete posts, and threaten.”

”The only responses we get from you is cursing, name calling, and threats, that’s your answers to everything? That’s the answer you give when questioned by someone? Looks like you don't have much "truth" in your arsenal, but you do have a ton of crap.”

”This is my last post to you, since there's no point because you refuse to answer anything I ask, but we both know who won, the one who answered questions won, which would be me. The one who refused to answer anything lost, which would be you. c/ya!”

“You do the exact same you bitch about; once again you accuse others of what you do. You never answered any on my questions, you dodged, and weaved, and your answers were cursing, and name calling, lol.”
“Is that what the truthers do when they have no point, name call? Cause that’s all you do when you have no answer, you ignore, and name call, does your eyes burn when you read the truth? Be careful you'll go blind reading the truth, your more of a nazi than anyone, you spew more propaganda than Hitler ever did.”
Anyone see a recurring theme here?
My final comment:
Larry I do so pity you as well as those who you say agree with you. Funny how few of your fellow “truthers” out there actually come to your site or to your defense. Sad, but not only do you not have any “truther” friends but you obviously have no real friends as well. I’m certain you live alone or in your mother’s basement and have no education or steady employment and you’re 38 years old. I’m willing to bet you’ve never had a girlfriend in your entire life. I’ve come to realize that you likely have borderline personality disorder with schizoaffective tendencies evidenced by delusions of grandeur and persecution (look it up). You are as big a hypocrite as any of the right-wingers you so despise and you are so filled with hate that you are likely going to snap one day and go to the nearest water tower with a gun and start offing innocent civilians.
You disrespect all those who perished, were injured, or lost a loved one on 9/11 and you make honest secular liberals like myself look foolish. So good job Larry you true patriot and fighter of truth, justice and the American way.

Have fun wasting and living out your life vicariously through your pathetic excuse for a blog. I’m going to go play with my beautiful wife and son who although only a toddler already knows more than you ever will.
Jas

P.S.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BzGd0t8v-d4&mode=related&search=

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LoDqDvbgeXM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t2axP1lWFhg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQuIhJId1JY